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People who can help
The Ex-Scientologist Message Board is a vibrant community of ex-Scientologists who have left, including many former top Scientologists. A great resource with lots of people who have been in the situation you are now.
XSO Yahoo Group is a very active ex-Sea Org chat site run by Mick Wenlock, great for reconnecting with others who have gotten out. Registration is required, but an easy process. Mick Wenlock can be contacted ON YAHOO
Ex-Scientology Kids forum is part of a new site Kendra Wiseman, Jenna Miscavige Hill (David Miscavige's niece), and Astra Woodcraft (ex-Sea Org) who all grew up in Scientology. Although new, a community of ex-Scientologists who are speaking up is forming there already.
Lermanet.com is a great resource for Scientologists run by Arnaldo "Arnie" Lerma. The site is run by ex-Scientologists for Scientologists, and deconstructs and explains how the Scientology machine takes control of your mind. Arnie also counsels Scientology members with transition support, getting refunds and in evaluating if they should find a lawyer, and has been for many years.
Escape International: Helps put families back together
How to leave
These sections are written by an ex-Scientologist.
If you've come to the decision that Scientology is not for you, and you're wondering how to get out, we're here to help. Many people who realize that they may have some serious doubts about Scientology doctrines and policies don't know where to go from there. Here are some pointers that ex-Scientologists have found helpful:
1. Remember that you're not a criminal. Although people who leave are painted as downtone, downstat, or worse, SPs, always remember that "what's true for you is true for you".
You may be called a traitor, coward, liar, or criminal. You may be told that you have CI, or that you need to get your O/Ws off. You may be told that your petty complaints are not as important as saving the Universe. You may be told that "leaving is not the correct action", and that the correct action is to "take responsibility" for the situation and handle the church's problems from the inside.
Your ethics are YOUR ETHICS. You are the only one that gets to decide whether you are "out-ethics" or not.
Well, we're here to tell you that a desire to leave does not mean you have overts. It does not mean you're a traitor or a criminal. It does not mean you're a coward.
What it means is that you are choosing your own way, and keeping your integrity in. And that is a brave, brave thing to do.
2. Remember that you do not have to justify your decision to anyone. You are absolutely within your legal and human rights to refuse sec checks, route-out processes, and other procedures. You may, however, choose to do these things to remain in good standing with the church, and that too is your decision.
3. Figure out why you are leaving. If you are leaving because you still agree with the tech, but disagree with the current management practices of the Church, you may consider anonymously contacting the Freezone, a group of people who have left the CoS and continue to practice Scientology.
If you are leaving because you disagree with the Tech altogether, or because you feel that Scientology is not an uptone, Spirit of Play environment, you may consider anonymously joining one of the many online message boards and connecting with others who have gone through the same thing you are going through. (The Ex-Scientologist Message Board, Ex-Scientology Kids forum, XSO Yahoo Group)
4. Reconnect! If you have family and friends that aren't Scientologists, give them a call or get in touch. You don't have to talk about Scientology with them, but it does help to have some outside commlines. If you don't, give the message boards a try. Many of the long-time posters and administrators would be more than willing to chat with you on the phone.
Public Scientologists
Give yourself some breathing room to really evaluate Scientology for yourself, without the influence of Scientologists *or* anti-Scientologists. Examine any pluspoints and outpoints you noticed in Scientology. Read some websites about Scientology - both for and against. Ron did plenty of reading and research, there's no reason why you can't do the same.
If you decide to leave, the easiest way to actually begin the leaving process is to simply start fading out of the org environment. It's your money and *your* Bridge - you can choose to spend your money however you see fit, or go up that Bridge as often or as infrequently as you want.
Fading out slowly will also help ensure that you will not be presented with an SP declare, and ensure that family members still inside will not be asked to disconnect from you.
Stop showing up to the org as often, and avoid events and reg cycles. On your off time, start going out to places you don't normally go. Talk to people in coffee shops. Look up some interesting book readings or art events in your community newspaper and attend those instead.
After a time, you may choose to openly declare yourself a non- Scientologist. Or you may not. Again, the choice is up to you. But whatever your choice is, there are people on the internet and in real life who will support you.
And remember, the closest way out is the nearest door.
Staff Scientologists
The easiest and least confrontational way to leave as a staff Scientologist is to become a public Scientologist again, and then fade out quietly.
Often, staff members who leave staff are looked down on, and told they are stupid, insane, PTS, "letting the org down", "not on board", "don't want to clear the planet", etc. Once again, what's true for you is true for you.
How you leave is up to you. However, you should know (and probably already do know) that if you originate an intention to leave staff, the org will be extremely reluctant to let you go, and you may be kept there for months "routing out". You should remember that Scientology has no legal basis for demanding that you do this. For those with family and friends still in, however, the routing-out procedure will ensure that you may continue to be in comm with your loved ones.
It's worthwhile to note that the routing-out procedure, in many cases, is designed to make you question your decision to leave. Be adamant about your personal decisions and your integrity. No one can take these from you.
If routing-out is unacceptable to you, or if you want out fast, you can and should blow. It's not easy, but if you feel that you are under tremendous pressure, or if you are certain you want to leave but know that you don't want to go through the sec-checking procedure, or if you are being verbally harassed and intimidated, just walk out the door.
It is your fundamental right as a human being to simply walk out that door.
Sea Org Members
We understand that you have been told that blowing is a high crime. We know, because we've been through it ourselves. We know that your compatriots and seniors look down on people who have left, and call them SPs. We understand that even people who go through the routing-out process are treated as if they are cowards, and traitors to the cause. You're not.
You may find this statistic very interesting: There are currently an estimated 5,000-7,000 people in the Sea Org. On the other hand, there are around 25,000 EX Sea Org members.
Many current SO members don't realize that they have the right to simply walk out. Leaving the Sea Org is a scary thing to do. But the best way to do it is to simply blow. If you have friends and family who are non-Scientologists, call them. If you have parents who will come get you, call them.
Here are some things to remember to keep you strong. Keep them close to your heart.
•The freeloader bill is legally unenforceable. They're not going to charge you for it. It's just a piece of paper.
•The Sea Org contract is legally unenforceable. Any Scientology lawyer who tried to take you to court for not fulfilling a "billion year contract" would be a laughingstock.
•The routing-out process is designed to degrade you, make you wrong for wanting to leave, convince you that you have overts, and convince you to finally decide to stay. The way that the SO route-out is often administered is illegal.
•If anyone tries to physically restrain you, they are guilty of kidnapping and wrongful imprisonment. Be Tone 40, and don't put up with it.
•No one has the right to not give you vacation time, especially when promised.
•No one has the right to open your mail and monitor your phone calls home.
•No one has the right to force you into session.
•No one has the right to tell you you cannot receive gifts from your family, if you want them.
And most importantly, THERE ARE PEOPLE YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO LOVE YOU, and care about you, and will give you unconditional support, a shoulder to lean on, and even a place to stay if you need one.
If you need help, or if you just need someone to talk to, please call the Ex-Sea Org hotline, a toll-free number manned by a network of Ex-SO members who can help you get out. The number is: 1-866-XSEAORG
It is highly probable that after you leave, someone will be dispatched to wherever you are staying to cajole you, threaten you, or pressure you to come back. It's important that you give yourself enough time and space to destimulate and make up your own mind.
You may be declared for leaving this way. That's something you will have to confront. If you have lots of family and friends in the Scientology that you don't want to disconnect from, and you feel up to routing-out, give it a shot. But if at any time you feel you're being badly treated or pressured, put your foot down. You are NOT committing a crime by asking to be treated ethically.
Don't sign any legal documents. If you do you are signing away your own rights. Don't sign any non disclosure agreements not to discuss your life in the Sea Org. It's much better to refuse to sign anything until you're out and can go over the documents carefully, or with representation.
Part 3 of the OTVII Panel, Looking back on their time in Scientology
Sea Org or Staff Scientologists
If you've blown it's likely you'll be declared SP. If it happens your friends will be told lies about you, and will likely disconnect. It's an unfortunate and ugly truth. It will not be an easy step or an easy transition. They will come after you. They will try to convince you to come back. They will use the illusion of authority to order you to come back, but if you say no and stand firm, there simply isn't very much they can do.
As stated above, there are 25,000 ex-Sea Org members out there and tens of thousands of ex-staff, and most of them are leading happy, productive lives. They have wonderful jobs, they travel the world, they have children, they lounge in their gardens and read, they sip fine coffees, they go to Sunday brunches and rock shows, and they experience life to the very fullest.
You can too.
Public Scientologists
SP declares happen but not as much. As long as you don't speak out against the Church but just stop participating and remain in good standing, you probably won't be disconnected. They'll probably call you very often to try to get you to come in for services, and send you a lot of mail. Your Scientology friends will ask you "when was the last time you were on course?", or be concerned.
Life Outside
What will your life be like outside? Who knows? We can tell you that a huge majority of the Sea Org members that left do not regret their decision. People tend to be less stressed out, more at peace with the world, more comfortable in their human relationships. But as far as the specifics - where you will travel, who you will meet, what fun you will have... that is *your* adventure to create. And like the man said: "The greatest joy in this life is creating. Splurge on it!"
The Leaving Scientology Resource Guide has been set up to assist Scientologists and particularly staff Scientologists in leaving the organization safely and getting the help and support needed to recover.
This page was created by concerned citizens with the help of ex-Scientologists. If you have any questions, comments or input, we can be contacted at [email protected]
== "THIS IS A SCIENTOLOGY FREE ZONE" ==
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NEW SCIENTOLOGIST STOOGES ON THE BLOCK
03.08.14.M. http://xhamster.com/user/I_Was_Sent_by_LRon
02.08.14.F. http://xhamster.com/user/CTOAN
May I invite you into the Church of $cientology
So you will have a chance to survive the evil
apocalypse? All that you do is of no worth
only $cientology will save you when the day is near,
6000 yrs from now on. We all live that long! (;D)
03.04.14 MADE A CLONE PROFILE TO TRY AND FOOL ME
_____KNOWN SCIENTOLOGIST`S LIST_________
FORMMER HEADQURTERS WAS AT
THE CLUB IMPERIAL SEVEN SISTERS RD LONDON
THE_DATE_SEX___ HAMSTER_PROFILE
11.07.13..M http://xhamster.com/user/PASTORMIKE
__________ACTIVE
22.06.13..M http://xhamster.com/user/IMTHEGOD2
__________ACTIVE
21.05.13..F http://xhamster.com/user/IAMTHEGOD1
13.06.13 FAKE FEMALE_Claimed to be here to reclaim BBE1
_________STOPPED WITH THE HELP OF
_________ http://xhamster.com/user/CMStivy.
BECOME IMTHEGOD2
10.12.12..M http://xhamster.com/user/LITTLEBEAR1
08.03.13__DELETED REAL NAME ANDREW
(PEACE MAKER WANBE PASTOR)
Payed £30.000 to regain Control on here.
03.12.12..M http://xhamster.com/user/MONEY_BAGS1
___________N/A STOPPED ONE APPERANCE ONLY.
??.03.12.TG http://xhamster.com/user/IMTTHEONLYONE1
08.12.12___Fake TG (THE MOLE)DEFEETED
21.03.12.TG http://xhamster.com/user/MYGLASSEYE
___________N/A Fake TG
19.03,12.TG http://xhamster.com/user/B0ZUL
___________N/A Fake TG and likes to talk backwards
??.03.12.TG http://xhamster.com/user/IMTTHEONLYONE1
08.12.12___Fake TG (THE MOLE)DEFEETED
18.03.12.TG http://xhamster.com/user/SASSYCRUNCH
___________N/A STOPPED, Fake TG (HEAD OF MUSIC)
___________Former Double Act With ALOSTANGEL
16.03.12.F http://xhamster.com/user/ALOSTANGEL
06.12.12___HEAD OF SINGING DEFETED
___________and Banned from the Internet
10.10.11.M http://xhamster.com/user/THOMAS
___________N/A VERY ODD PROFILE
07.10.11.M http://xhamster.com/user/JAMES_1
25.03.12___REAL NAME JAMES (AUDITOR)
___________HEAD OF THE GROUP DEFEETED TWICE
??.??.11.M http://xhamster.com/user/JAMES
___________N/A STOPPED
??.??.11..M http://xhamster.com/user/PASTORPAUL
??.08.11___REAL NAME PAUL (PASTOR) DEFEETED
29.10.11..M http://xhamster.com/user/IAMTHELORD
24.03.12___REAL NAME CHARLES DEFEETED TWICE
??.07.11..M http://xhamster.com/user/IAMGOD2
??.07.11___STOPED BECAME IAMTHELORD
??.07.11..M http://xhamster.com/user/IAMGOD
??.07.11___STOPED BECAME IAMGOD2
22.07.11..M http://xhamster.com/user/LITTLEGOD
___________STOPED N/A BECAME IAMGOD
20.07.11..M http://xhamster.com/user/LITTLELION
22.07.11___STOPED BECAME LITTLEGOD
Please Continue
to block the Active/ Non Active members in case
they activate at some time in the future.
It was James 1 the (Auditor) Who Spotted the Buisness
oppertunity back in 2011 to exspand the cult and take
over the Xhamster site, nothing less was his goal. so
thats what he tried to do mob handed in 2012 He and his
group care nothing for anyone, I should know because I
asked him, his reply was:-
"Why should I care about anybody, they are just food
on my table"
Please Continue
to block the Active/ Non Active members in case
they activate at some time in the future.
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== "THIS IS A SCIENTOLOGY FREE ZONE" ==
=========== ╭∩╮(•_•)╭∩╮ ==========
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IF ANYONE THINK THIS IS A JOKE ITS NOT TAKE A LOOK AT
http://xhamster.com/user/BIGBLUEELEPHANT1 WALL
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== "THIS IS A SCIENTOLOGY FREE ZONE" ==
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___KNOWN SCIENTOLOGIST`S LIST____
FORMMER HEADQURTERS WAS AT
THE CLUB IMPERIAL SEVEN SISTERS RD LONDON
__SCIENTOLOGIST PROFILE INVOLVED SO FAR
11.07.13..M http://xhamster.com/user/PASTORMIKE
___ACTIVE LEADER OF IMTHEGOD2
30.08.13__BROKE BBE1 XHAMSTERS PROFILE PASSWORD
19.08.13__GOT BBE1 BANNED FROM INTERNET CAFES
16.08.13__MADE BBE1 HOMELESS & BANKRUPT
22.06.13..M http://xhamster.com/user/IMTHEGOD2
___ACTIVE CLAM TO PASTORMIKE
30.08.13_USED BBE1 XHAMSTERS P.FILE P.WORD WITHOUT
HER AUTHORITY
19.08.13_GOT BBE1 BANNED FROM INTERNET CAFES
18.08.13_DEATH THREAT TO BBE1
16.08.13_MADE BBE1 HOMELESS & BANKRUPT
21.05.13 F http://xhamster.com/user/IAMTHEGOD1
13.06.13 FAKE FEMALE_TAKE CONTROL OF BBE1 PROFILE
DEFEATED BY TFM/CMStivy
10.12.12..M http://xhamster.com/user/LITTLEBEAR1
08.03.13_DEFETED BY TFM/BBE
10.O8.13_RETURNED NOT ACTIVE AT THE MOMENT
REAL NAME ANDREW (PEACE MAKER WANBE PASTOR)
PAID £30.000 TO TAKE CONTROL OF BBE PROFILE
03.12.12..M http://xhamster.com/user/MONEY_BAGS1
03.12.12..N/A STOPPED BY TFM ONE APPERANCE ONLY.
21.03.12.TG http://xhamster.com/user/MYGLASSEYE
21.03.12_N/A FAKE TG
STOPPED BY TFM BEFORE HE COULD GET STARTED
19.03,12.TG http://xhamster.com/user/B0ZUL
19.03.12_N/A FAKE TG LIKES TO TALK BACKWARDS
STOPPED BY TFM BEFORE HE COULD GET STARTED
??.03.12.TG http://xhamster.com/user/IMTTHEONLYONE1
08.12.12_FAKE TG (THE MOLE)DEFEETED BY TFM/BBE
DID TRY TO GET HIM OUT OF SCIENTOLOGY
18.03.12.TG http://xhamster.com/user/SASSYCRUNCH
FAKE TG (HEAD OF MUSIC) LIKES PERFECT SPELLING AND PUNCTATION I STILL GOT HIM STOPPED BY TFM
Former Double Act With ALOSTANGEL
16.03.12.F http://xhamster.com/user/ALOSTANGEL
06.12.12_HEAD OF SINGING DEFETED BY TFM/BBE
BANNED FROM THE INTERNET WAS RUNNING DODGGY CHURCH GROUPS ON:-
YAHOO.GOOGLE.FACEBOOK. BY BBE
(FAILED ON XHAMSTER) BY TFM
10.10.11.M Http://xhamster.com/user/THOMAS
N/A VERY ODD PROFILE
OLD TIMER ON HAMSTER ?
MAYBE HE DID`NT FANCY IT TFM
07.10.11.M http://xhamster.com/user/JAMES_1
25.03.12_REAL NAME JAMES (AUDITOR)
HEAD OF THE GROUP DEFEETED TWICE BY TFM
VOWS TO RETURN TO TAKE OVER XHAMSTER SITE
WHEN I HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM HERE.
??.??.11.M http://xhamster.com/user/JAMES
N/A ONE APPERANCE ONLY STOPPED BY TFM
??.??.11..M http://xhamster.com/user/PASTORPAUL
??.08.11_REAL NAME PAUL (PASTOR) DEFEETED BY TFM
29.10.11..M http://xhamster.com/user/IAMTHELORD
24.03.12_REAL NAME CHARLES DEFEETED TWICE BY TFM
2011 JAMES 1 ROTTWILER INFORCER WITH MENACES FORCED
BBE TO HAND OVER HER PASSWORDS
2012 DEMANDED CHURCH DONATIONS FROM PROFILES THAT
ALOSTANGEL & SASSYCRUSH WERE SPAMING CHURCH SERVICES WITH.
??.07.11..M http://xhamster.com/user/IAMGOD2
??.07.11_STOPED BY TFM BECAME IAMTHELORD
??.07.11..M http://xhamster.com/user/IAMGOD
??.07.11_STOPED BY TFM BECAME IAMGOD2
22.07.11..M http://xhamster.com/user/LITTLEGOD
STOPED BY TFM N/A BECAME IAMGOD
20.07.11..M http://xhamster.com/user/LITTLELION
22.07.11_STOPED BY TFM BECAME LITTLEGOD
THEIR MAIN TARGETS ARE:-
http://xhamster.com/user/BIGBLUEELEPHANT1 = BBE1
WHO THEY WISH TO CONTROL AND BUILD THERE EVIL EMPIRE
FROM WITH BBE TAKING ALL THE RISKS INVOLVED.
SO FAR THIS YEAR:-
"DISCONECTION" FROM TFM FOR A 2ND TIME
SHE HAS BEEN MADE HOMELESS & BANKRUPT
"FAIR GAMED"
BANNED FROM 3 INTERNET CAFES &
HAD HER XHAMSTER PASSWORD PROFILE
BROKEN INTO
AND
http://xhamster.com/user/THEFORBIDDENMAN == TFM
WHO HAS BEEN DEFENDING BBE AND ALL
THE VONRABLE MALE GROUP PROFILES ON
THE XHAMSTER SITE SINCE 2011
SO FAR:- "DISCONECTION & FAIR GAMED TWICE"
BRAKING OF MY CLOSE FRIENDSHIP WITH BBE
AND TWICE, PICKED UP BY THE POLICE
BECAUSE OF FALSE ALLIGATIONS,
GOT A GAGGING ORDER LIFTED, THEY WERE
LOOKING FOR ME BUT WHEN I OFFER TO MEET
THEM, THEY BACK OFF,
USED A MOLE AGAINST ME WHO I DID TRY TO
GET OUT OF SCIENTOLOGY.
It was James 1 the (Auditor) Who Spotted
the Buisness oppertunity back in 2011 to
exspand the cult and take over the
Xhamster site, nothing less was his goal.
so thats what he tried to do mob handed
in 2012 He and his group care nothing for
anyone, I should know because I asked him,
his reply was:-
"Why should I care about anybody,
they are just food on my table"
Please Continue
to block the Active/ Non Active members
in case they activate at some time in
the future.
==========================================
==========================================
== "THIS IS A SCIENTOLOGY FREE ZONE" ==
=============== ╭∩╮(•_•)╭∩╮ ===============
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THE PASTA AND THE CLAM
http://xhamster.com/user/PASTORMIKE
http://xhamster.com/user/IMTHEGOD2
THINK YOUR A HAS BEEN A NOBODY THATS NICE OF THEM
MAYBE YOU CAN GET JAMES TO REMIND THEM.