Tongueless And Bound



It's funny SO many people *as I did* have such a shining opinion of porn...Most seem under the assumption(or want to be) that i's just a way for girls who loves sex to make fast cash. Fun and games. It's all voluntary and the women happen to "really like it". The things is though sex =/= porn. Porn is fake...but it' still choreographed. The women are acting as is they're in eternal bliss(well the acting and the d**gs) but that twelve inch dildo going into her anus is real, the ten guys ramming her in every orifice is real and once the painkillers and coke run off the pay for the scene probably won't even be enough to pay for the doctor bill of anal tearing.

http://splendorstreet.com/blog/2013/08/20/ex-pornstars-on-the-porn-industry-draft/

I mean in interviews women seem to love it, right? They talk about how "liberating" it is, the women just want to "test their limits" and it's not like they're just regurgitating the dreck the studio heads who supply their contracts WANT them to say. Sure porn seems really glossy and fun but think of a pornstars high out of their mind taking hours to film a shoot with constant starts/stops, fake lube, disease, awkwardness, irritated actors, pushy directors...

http://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/1xna58/stories_from_the_pornstars_themselves/


More shining testimonials when stars aren't censored by studios.

http://thedirty.com/2013/10/jenna-jameson-is-on-d**gs-again/
Ok, this is Jenna Jameson...I mean THE modern porn star. If all the money and success she accumulated over the years wasn't enough to "cure" her what hope do most of these women have. She can barely construct a viable sentence she's probably so high on d**gs. In an out of rehab, domestic v******e...she's barely even allowed to see her c***dren. But, cue the violins, she's just a dirty who and she deserves all of it...

You know it's funny when she's doing entertaining the masses and doing anal and has semen on her face and pretending to be the perfect little American porn star, people love her but the moment that's gone and she's a real person with adversity and real problems and issues, she's a cunt that deserves to die. Honestly, the comments under the video are just...amazing. So much for "faith in humanity". You prop these women up to be gleaming sex objects with no souls, from c***dhood...that's what women see. How much sex sells, how pretty they need to look and how they nee to please men, then they conform to that and people ridicule and turn on them for the very thing they asked...Ha...

But hey, that's just crap. No one forceS these women to do this...they're just sluts who like it, right? They get off on the abuse and degrading. Stop feeling sorry for women who "ask" for and it "want it". The onus falls squarely on them....






Nope. It's their fault. Just like it's the women's fault porn is so violent and dehumanizing. It's not as if that's what the consumers WANT to see....Like that's what the industry demands or anything. I mean I could see if the women were only paid around 2000$ a scene after a shoot for hours and the only real way to make and cash was to do the more severe, strenuous scenes which seem to be the only thing anyone watches. No, people want the **** simulations...not something where the woman seems to be enjoying herself...Pfft.

And that's not even exclusive to b/g porn. Look at the average "lesbian" video's views on this site, then look at say...a WhippedAss scene where the women basically act like men and treat the actresses in the scene like dirt. They're always the ones with the most views because it seems people have no interest in anything similar to sex that resembles...well actual sex..degradation is the name of the game.

Think about it...do women love rough sex at times? Yes...even really extreme stuff, but it's usually in the comfortability of their privacy. Not in sets being directed with constant interruption and with strangers to enact some fantasy for sexually frustrated viewers. Seriously, the women will have clear and defined pain in their eyes, and you people still convince yourself "the whore likes it"...it's "just for fun."

Sure porn is about escapism and vicariously enacting out fantasies most can obtain IRL...but most is just blatant hurt. But, I'm not trying to tell anyone what's acceptable viewing material and this isn't going to change minds, and at the end of the day we all know male pornstars are stud, and the women are just stupid, useless cum-slut, bitches that have no merit aside from how much cock than can shove down their throat at once.

So why am I complaining AGAIN?! IDK...I'm not trying to look down at people who love porn, and I'm not trying to alter viewing habits, and men are still going to degrade and debase the women anyway...I just think people are raging hypocrites and happen to be pretty naïve...and careless and more people should know(even if it's just three people)that porn isn't as awesome as it looks. And yes, I realize hoe stupid I sound saying all this on A PORN SITE.

Anyway for anyone interested in more testimonies and seeing more of the "inside" of the porn industry. Take a look at Kirsten's blogs. She has a great amount of content and knowledge on the subject.
http://xhamster.com/user/kikivd

Good day.








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Thelambofdeth
Thelambofdeth Publisher 9 years ago
to Gabriele : It's all about perception. Here is seems pornstars are glamorized and adored as LONG as they stay in their "porn bubble". I think Sasha Grey is the closest we have to a cross-over star and still, her films are small, indie stuff. If you look at what most of her "fans" seem to think of her work it's usually "she's a no-talent slut who should go back to sucking cock" or something like that. As long as they remain in porn, it's fine, but once the women seem to have any goals beyond or after porn, the men seem to turn on them. They're "inferior"...looked down upon. But all is fine as long as they know "their role".

But the culture just seems to be different. For example Eufrat. Most of the g/g stuff she does doesn't even seem like porn. It looks so much more...natural than the scenes we shoot. They're not as loud, obnoxious or degrading. She certainly seems more respectable than many of our porn actresses...even the ones that just do g/g. I'm sure with b/g it's pretty much all the same thing(I know Eufrat has done that, too), and it's kinda hard to describe but you can see a difference. Big country or not we could stand to adopt some different standards and as usual we're raging hypocrites.

(Glad my over-indulgent answers can be of service, lol.)
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Gabriele
to Thelambofdeth : It is a bit difficult to judge US porn from here because female porn stars in Europe have a different standing or at least it seems to be. Sometimes they appear in a TV discussion or change to become normal TV actors and some have been successful at such a career switch. If course they are a minority and many suffer a similar fate as you mentioned when they must realize they become out of demand after some years. Conditions on the porn set seem to be very similar everywhere although the general public view of porn stars over here in western europe does seem not be to as rough. Then again the US is such a big country and not comparable with small european standarts.
After all i think Jenna Jameson would have a little better public opinion and stand here if she was european even though two faced bastards can be found everywhere :frowning:

I like your long winded answers because it helps me better my english reading all of it :smile:
(with a little help of my online dictionary to be honest :smile:)
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Thelambofdeth
Thelambofdeth Publisher 10 years ago
to Gabriele : Being a quasi-feminist, my uploading habits make me even more egregious. More so because I STILL upload. Everyone's guilty, it's simply a matter of how much IMO. I'm not one for moral victories and all I can do personally is what I can personally accept. I am both a hypocrite AND a part of the problem AND I complain about. A true American.

Speaking of America, porn makes BILLIONS of dollars...just in the US alone.

http://www.covenanteyes.com/2012/06/01/how-big-is-the-pornography-industry-in-the-united-states/

Yet the women get paid peanuts.

http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-what-female-porn-stars-get-paid-for-different-types-of-scenes-2012-11

High-end escorts make more than that. 1,200$ to have you anus ruptured? Eight hour shoots with ten men in every orifice for just four, five, or even ten thousand dollars? Not to mention how they're treated. The short and long-term effects on their bodies, how negatively it iinfluences their personal lives with dating or their family reception The shame, guilt and condemnation. The shrewd companies and studios that make all the revenue control the perception of the women and the brand, and all the profit. It's a perfect set-up...

In that Jenna Jameson radio interview above, all the comments talk about how much of a worthless slut she is. How her profession dictates that she deserved to be an addict, not allowed to see her kids, or to be beaten by a damn UFC fighter. Yet when she was all glammed up, looking pretty and sexy and pretending to be happy, sucking cock and taking it in the ass in scenes she was a goddess then. "Fans" want women to be as nasty, and "extreme" as possible, then once all that wears off an they're normal people with problem they turn their back on them and look down. It's pathetic..and sad because they do it for men, and ultimately their the ones that force them to do it, and ridicule them for it later...

She was the most successful star of her generation and she was a broken women who could barely form a sentence. Probabaly doped up on who knows how many drugs, no respect from anyone, her family relationship is tarnished and on top of that, she's a retired porn star with little money and even less dignity. So much for all the glamour...

As much as I upload I hardly even watch porn anymore, and if it wasn't for the social aspect I would've left a LONG time ago...And why do my answers always get so long winded? This could've been a blog itself, lol. You know what this site needs? A forum. Why the hell doesn't xham have a forum?

And mods were probably too busy letting all the child, and urine porn slip through to troll your comment posts again, lol. Or maybe you're right and the NSA was just going through thier drug/sex trafficking funds at that moment...
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Gabriele
PS:
I wonder why xhamster let my comment through after one week of *invalid message* suffering,
or maybe the pornlovers in the NSA stopped my attempts for spoiling their fun, LMAO
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Gabriele
Admitting to be as guilty as anybody because of uploading, this made me think again. The industry delivers perfect polished products which are in essence silicone plastic barbies with voices like daisy duck. A multi million dollar industry ruled by shady business companies out to squeeze every drop of financial reward. Have you ever heard they the cover medical insurance for actresses to get neccessary surgery on their ripped assholes? That'll be the day!! Porn cow breeding and slaughtering for the sake of fresh meat :frowning:
In an x-ray room they instruct patients "inhale, exhale, hiold your breath", in porn it's "open your mouth, now swallow the cum and take the other cock in your asshole...
I find myself enjoying reading blogs or looking at amateur clips although most new uploads have become a boring stale repeating machine..
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Thelambofdeth
Thelambofdeth Publisher 10 years ago
to Gabriele : It's funny because when the women seem to get a shot at directing it's usually g/g scenes, and since most of them don't even like girls it's usually crap because it's too fluffy and boring or one of the women is basically directed as the "man" of the scene. I mean I get movies or a music video being directed, but...it's sex...Just...ugh. At least cut back.

And it's funnier because the men seem to direct everything the same way. I had a spell where I watched a little b/g stuff and aside from the "niche" scenes it all seemed exactly the same...from every studio to the point...why even be a different studio? Direction 9/10 gets in the way and most of them seem like creeps to boot, as the link you sent seems to demonstrate.

"I keep trying to nail my full comment...
this is only a small step for a single user but a giant leap for xhamster :smile:"

LOL
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Gabriele
I keep trying to nail my full comment...
this is only a small step for a single user but a giant leap for xhamster :smile:
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Gabriele
to Thelambofdeth : Here's a mild example of a moron porn director ruining what could have been quite good
http://de.xhamster.com/movies/1273384/the_making_of_a_t_girl_video.html
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Gabriele
to Thelambofdeth : As I said before, in my mind one half of male directors/producers should be executed and the other half desevers to be castrated without sedation!!

I seem to be getting logged off the site by some kind of automatism also about every 30 seconds :frowning:
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Thelambofdeth
Thelambofdeth Publisher 10 years ago
to Gabriele : Thanks for going through all the trouble and after looking at the message I still don't know why it wouldn't send...Anyway, it's funny of different a perspective makes. I watch a lot of abbywinters vids and one time during the videos I heard the man in the background directing the scenes. These are supposed to be the most female-oriented, one of the only studios producing for actual women and still...then man is in charge telling women what they should be doing with other women to look sexy...and that's why I realized it's ALL for men...all of it and usually they prefer to see crap..

Can you imagine how different most of these scenes would be if you could hear the director in the back? People forget how "choreographed" these scene are, and they just think it's people "having fun"...and it's not...Hearing the director just cheapens it...And of course when it's boy/girl it's that much worse...The abuse it real, and the sex is fake...and I didn't mean for my comment to be that long, lol. Anyway thank you.
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Gabriele
Your blog doesn't like me :smile:
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Gabriele
to Thelambofdeth : I try and post my comment and the link separately
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Thelambofdeth
Thelambofdeth Publisher 10 years ago
to Gabriele : That's...really weird. Usually it's only because of outside links, not xham links. And it sucks because the fact that it won't send makes me REALLY curious...I hate this stupid site.
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Gabriele
to Thelambofdeth : I can't believe a PM doesn't send either, it can't be because it includes an xhamster link, can it?
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Gabriele
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Thelambofdeth
Thelambofdeth Publisher 10 years ago
to Gabriele : Damn...I wish you would've PMed it. I'd have liked to read it. Of course anytime anyone has something to say aside from trolling or "what a cute little cum-slut bitch" this site nixes it. Gotta love Xham...And management would probably love the BDSM treatment, lol. Thanks for the comment.
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Gabriele
I keep trying to post a comment and a notice comes up saying *invalid message"
This fucking xhamster is so much crap at times the management should be getting some bdsm treatment :frowning:
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Thelambofdeth
Thelambofdeth Publisher 10 years ago
to ellekeener : Well don't get me wrong...I'm not making them out to be saints. But even with their new regime they're certainly the lesser or evil, albeit still couter-productive. I actually had a long talk with someone the other day about them. The move from Australia and their new "models"(most of which aren't even amateurs), the under-age incidents, and not to mention just much more "porn-ish" and male-oriented they've become over the years. Even the directors of the scenes are men. At the end of the day it's all porn, but you have to pick your poison.

Well yep...I'm a hypocrite. Everyone's an hypocrite to some extent. People complain about athletes and domestic violence but they still buy merch. and go to games. Actors have sexual assault cases and charges and even worse case against them and people forget it and go support their films where women haters are an ignored abundance. No, it's not quite comparable to the depths of the porn industry but hypocrisy is pretty much a human requirement. People have and love sex, and as destructive as porn is that means it's pretty much always going to be around. I could leave and take a stand, or I could enjoy the stuff that happens to be less harmful in my eyes... Nothing ever changes...One person closes their account or leaves and 1,000 take their place. So in me being her and uploading or whatever I'M a part of the problem AND I'm complaining about it. The irony/hypocrisy isn't lost on me.

I don't blame you. If it wasn't for the social aspect I would've left the site a long time ago...Even with it the crap here(and everywhere for that matter) just gets...grating after all times...And all very pointless. Thank you for the comment.
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ellekeener
Actually Abbywinters isn't all it is cracked up to be. The owner is MALE what's fucking new. If you look up 'Garion Hall arrested' it is revealed that he is also a piece of shit like the rest of them.

To be honest everyone of us on this site is contributing to what your blog post is about. Every active account, every dead account, every upload and comment is driving traffic to this site and putting $$$ £££ into the pockets of all the woman haters.

I am serioudly considering deleting my account and getting a couple of romance novels or something.
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drchuck
drchuck 10 years ago
to Thelambofdeth : " Anytime the porn where the woman is treated as an equal is the niche...something is very wrong. But who cares?"

what takes your question from the rhetorical to the tragical is that we both know it isn't nearly enough.
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Thelambofdeth
Thelambofdeth Publisher 10 years ago
to drchuck : Well Abbywinters is a different case because it's all amateur. The women don't sign contracts, they're not professionals, and they're not forced to do anything. In this case, it's kinda "just for fun". The entire concept is different that the mainstream stuff. I'm not saying it's entirely altruistic, but those girls aren't doing this for their livelihood or occupation. It's all much more...casual and lenient. The women seem to actually be enjoying their selves or at they very least they're not being degraded or hurt.

It's one of the few studios that seems to cater to women...or did. Ironically, despite how...alternative(and pretty damn gay) most of their scenes are (ESPECIALLY the older ones) apparently men have latched onto the studio a lot more recently(not to mention new ownership...) and in the past few years they've obviously started to...ingratiate more to the male fans. Even going so far as to opt for boy/girl scenes now.(But the requirement is they have to be a real-life couple) And you can see the microcosm of that because pretty much every uploaded of AW stuff on this site happen to be male...So even the stuff that was at least in part intended for lesbians ultimately starts to go in the direction of men's preferences. But I'm going off on a serious tangent...

I think AW, IFM, GOW and most of those studio aren't as damaging as the other major studios simply because of the audience...and what's produced. If you look at all the companies that specialize on romantic, or passionate, or more "realistic" (at least from what I can tell) b/g, they're usually pretty into g/g as well. While g/g is usually just as fake as b/g it's not as inherently destructive as b/g and that's the problem. B/g is the most popular format of porn, and the more reprehensible. Anytime the porn where the woman is treated as an equal is the niche...something is very wrong. But who cares?
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Thelambofdeth
Thelambofdeth Publisher 10 years ago
to isildur101 : And that's the problem, IMO. It's not like the abusive, destructive porn is niche...it's mainstream. It's everywhere and everyone seems to love it. And IMO as long as people keep supporting it and the women continually spew out feigned rhetoric about how "harmless" it is and how "liberating"(until they retire) their acts are, then nothing is likely to change.

And in many ways it does seem to mirror the movie industry. Supply and demand to the lowest common denominator. Only at the very lest films happens to be all fake and the actresses there aren't dehumanized and defiled in the way they are in porn...no matter how bad the film is. Thanks for the comment.
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drchuck
drchuck 10 years ago
when i first started watching videos here o was taken with some of the so-called cuckold videos because they at least seemed to represent an actual lifestyle and seemed to be made by and for real people. over time i became less enthralled by them and i finally realized that what was bothering me about them was that the power relationships were still skewed, it seemed that in most of the videos the husbands were getting a lot more pleasure out of the action than the wives were and i became much less interested in them. do i still have some of the videos lingering in my favorites? probably. i tended to keep the ones in which either the wife seemed to be getting pleasure or the husband was being sexually active with the other man either of which seemed to level the playing field a bit.

one of the things i enjoyed about your uploads was that in amongst the videos from the major houses like the offshoots of mile high video were videos that seemed to take a more naturalistic and restrained tone. videos that focused more on the foreplay and the fun than on the actual sex, although there certainly was that as well. you've made many of these videos locked to friends only but an example i can point to is this one-- http://xhamster.com/movies/3442538/a_test_of_the_senses....html . do you think that the studio responsible for the films like that engage in the same types of practices you deplore above?

as always you raise some very good points that are difficult to consider and therefore important to consider.
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isildur101
isildur101 10 years ago
When virtually an entire industry has, at it's core, the degradation of women, someone needs to speak up and make their feelings known. My wife and I try to stick to porn that seems less exploitative and not directed at men, but such can be hard to find. I love videos where the girls get to talk and laugh and play like real lovers do. Not just throw their heads back in fake ecstasy as the other gay for pay girl sucks on a plastic dildo.
I guess porn is like the mainstream movie industry - the successful stuff is the flashy, explosive Michael Bay crap. You have to look deeper to find something profound, engaging and beautiful.
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Thelambofdeth
Thelambofdeth Publisher 10 years ago
to christianbalerant : I think pretty much everyone starts like that. It's kinda like the red/blue pill concept from The Matrix. You can either choose ignorance regarding the inside info on what really happens, be oblivious and enjoy it all, or you gain the information to see the scenes and acts for what they really are and never consider it the same again.

For example, I used to watch those female "squirt bukkake" vids and think how hot the concept is. Then you research and find out it's not at enticing as once thought when you come to find out most of those women are just urinating or have apparatus with water shoved inside them and that none of what you're seeing isn't at all real and the women don't even care about what's going on, or are too high on coke to notice let alone enjoy it.

I don't see it as "liberating". I think it can be...a woman expressing her sexuality and taking what she wants from her sexual partner while simultaneously made to look equal being put on display CAN be liberating but complete submissiveness, not caring about personal pleasure, cock-worshiping, spit-drenched deep-throating and ten-men anl gang-bang facials aren't exactly doing wonders for the perception of female sexuality, I'd imagine. None of it is ever positive for women..."testing their limits" my ass.

The thing is I'm sure there are tons of women who naturally happen to like extreme or risqué sex in THIER privacy or at least in safe circumstances. I'm not going to sit here and say there's not women out there who wouldn't or haven't had or would enjoy sex with two, three, or more men...but I don't believe they've enjoy the circumstance with no control over it, random men, eight hour shoots, or a third party director dictating what must happen and takes constantly starting/stopping the shoot. And the fact that people believe and convince themselves the actresses do is probably the worst part.
Not to mention what I've heard the women almost never orgasm in scenes, and if they do it doesn't make the shoot because the crew just gets embarrassed. Not to mention with all the takes and the starting, then stopping of the scenes IDK how the woman would have a chance to cum. But IDK, it's different on b/g because IDK how they're wired. Maybe if they're attracted enough to the man they can regardless...I would think it's even more rare in g/g porn since most of them aren't attracted to women.

Well it could be 1,000 different things I guess...but almost always the motivation for the women to opt for porn seems to stem from a broken upbringing. Lack of self-worth/esteem/respect and a past of abuse, usually from people close to them. But then you have cases like Bella Knox who was just seemingly a normal girl who went to Duke and just decided to do porn, so...eh. One of the reasons I'm glad I'm never having kids because if I had a daughter and she decided to do porn I'd probably shoot her, and if I had son I'd probably just shoot him anyway, lol. Thanks for the comment.
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Thelambofdeth
Thelambofdeth Publisher 10 years ago
to legalize22 : lolno. No one expect friends is going to read let alone care about this. People aren't going to change. People will ALWAYS watch the sickest nastiest stuff because they what they want, and the studios will gladly supply it. I think the men who watch it get off on the pain and take out their frustration on the women vicariously through the male actors. Their comments prove that...To them, it's "hot" and the "sluts love getting what they deserve"...*sigh*. Thanks for the comments.
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christianbalerant
I'll admit when i first got on here i saw things that i had only fantasized about, like those public disgrace vids, etc. it was taboo and exciting to me. as time goes on i keep thinking these are actual women, and it's harder to believe there's any liberation in it. what goes on in the rest of their lives, and what is their future? it has gotten to the point that if i'm not 100% certain the women are orgasming, then it becomes almost unwatchable...but i'm probably being tricked even there. sometimes i look at my husband's daughter and think how fortunate she is that people loved her and supported her enough that she will never have to resort to being a sexual punching bag like the women in the vids on here. i look at my daughter and wonder what terrible chain of events would have to occur for her to end up in such a state.
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legalize22
Great explained so more people would have to think so . That they might enter an see how bad the movies are and the women have pain. Without that they immediately get their thing out of the suit and comment how amazing it is. But it's the reverse world here how beastly it is, the more beautiful they find it.
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Thelambofdeth
Thelambofdeth Publisher 10 years ago
to kikivd : That's the saddest thing...no one cares. Bliss is ignorance and all that. Much easier to pretend all the women love it, and to forget about them once they retire. Thank you for the compliment and comment!
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