How To Use Urethral Sounds
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How To Use Urethral Sounds
AUGUST 21, 2012 / WINTERSONG
This post totally blew up in a way I never expected. It’s gotten quite a lot of traffic over the years, and I was eventually prompted to do a revised version. Below you’ll find the original “How To Use Urethal Sounds,” followed by a more lengthy and expanded sounding primer. If the first interests you, be sure to also read the second.
Enjoy and play safe! – Winter Tashlin 4/16/14
How To Use Urethral Sounds
originally posted on 8/21/12
Sounding can be a very enjoyable way to play with ideas of penetration, fuck with gender, and experience new and hot sensations. It can also be easily incorporated into all manner of D/s play. The techniques used for sounding aren’t terribly difficult, but there are some simple steps you can take to make it safer and more enjoyable.
First off, get an *actual* sound or sounding set. You’re way better off dropping $50 on proper sounds than finding thing around the house that might fit in your urethra. Seriously, I mean it.
Second off, get some sterile surgical lubricant. The best in my opinion is “Surgilube” and you can order it off Amazon or from your local pharmacy. I buy a one gross (144 packets) box of 2oz packets. There are other companies that are a bit cheaper, but they aren’t as pleasant to use, and honestly, you can probably get a 1 gross box for around $30 and it’ll last a couple of years. If you’re just playing with yourself, you can also get an 8oz or 16oz tube as an alternative.
Clean and rinse the sounds well after each use. I play with multiple people, so I disinfect my sounds with SaniCide after each use, and then clean the SaniCide off with Dr. Bonners or a mild dish soap (you don’t want that stuff in your body), and then I do a quick wipe with rubbing alcohol right before i use them. But again, if it’s just you, you can probably just get away with just the Dr. Bronners/dish soap and the alcohol.
Now for the whole “using them” part ;-)
If you have a standard set, for instance of Hagar sounds, which are probably the most common, you’ll probably NOT want to use the smallest sound in the set. The smaller the sound, the higher the risk that you could screw up (especially at first) and puncture the urethral wall, which sucks about as hard as it sounds.
Find the largest size that you can put into your urethral with a minimum of resistance and no feeling of stretching. With Hagar sounds I most commonly start beginners off with the third size up. Remember if you’re using a Hagar set that they are dual ended, usually with a 1mm difference between sides, so that’d be the smaller side of the 2nd smallest sounding rod.
Lube the first several inches of the sound well, and also spread some lubricant around the meatus (piss slit). Being careful to stabilize the sound with your hand, place the end into the meatus, and carefully and gently guide it into the urethra. Use an absolute minimum of force, if any, at this point. Ideally you want to let the sound “fall” in as far as it wants. Once it stops going in, just let it be for a bit, focusing on the experience and sensation, and then maybe try moving it in and out about 1/2 inch. At this point you may want to take out and re-lube the sound.
Once you’re used to the sensation of having something in your urethra, which can take anywhere from a few seconds, to minutes, to never, you have two clear options: you can bump up your size a bit, or you can go a bit deeper.
Either way, you’ll likely need to use more (gentle) force to insert the sound or push it further in. This may be uncomfortable. You may feel pressure, or a burning sensation and this is pretty normal. What you DON’T want is any sharp pain or the feeling that one place hurts *more*, especially at the tip of the sound, this is a big warning sign from your body and you need to listen.
In order to take a sound deeply, you may have to experiment to find the right angle of your penis to your body for the urethral passage to be conducive to sounding once the sound passes the base of your penis. You also may find in the case of Hagar sounds in particular, that the sound wants to rotate around its axis to continue deeper.
You generally don’t have to worry about entering the bladder (which you emphatically do NOT want to do) as long as you don’t push hard against the sound once it hits resistance while pretty deep in. You can always check how deep the sound is by feeling for the end between your legs along the perineum (taint). If the sound vanishes into your penis, especially if you are rather well endowed, it’s nothing to worry about. You can always retrieve it by finding the bottom end either at your perineum or along your shaft (depending on sound and penis lengths) and pushing up from there.
There’s a good chance you’ll have some burning with urination for a few hours or even days, this is normal, as is possibly a bit of blood, particularly when you’re new to sounding. If you have a discharge, fever, or cramping, seek medical attention. Also, if you’re prone to urinary tract infections, this may not be the play for you.
Once you’re accustomed to and comfortable with the whole idea of sounding, you can start experimenting with masturbating with it in, or using the sound specifically for sensation or pain play. Applying pressure to the outside of the urethra for instance with the sound in place is a great way to add some pain both in the moment, and later, as it will be more likely to burn during later urination. You can also “fuck” your penis with the sound. Use short motions, and remember to be very careful, especially if the sound is relatively small.
Done properly, sounding is generally on the safer end of the kink/BDSM spectrum. Play safe and have fun!
An In-Depth Primer On Sounding
originally published on 12/8/13 as part of The Bilerico Project’s short-lived “How’s That Work” feature on sex and kink
Of all the myriad topics I teach on, not to mention play modalities I personally enjoy, urethral sounding is without a doubt the one that consistently gets the biggest reaction when I bring it up.
As a rule, cis guys in particular fall into one of two camps when sounding is mentioned: The first group are the men who say “I’ve always wanted to try that,” or regale me with stories of what random objects they’ve put down their own urethras. The second group tends to go pale, u*********sly cover their groin, or tell me that the very idea makes them actively nauseas.
For a bit of background, urethral sounding is the act of inserting a rigid object into the urethra, usually some considerable distance. Its origins are as a medical procedure, and it was primarily used in the days before modern prostate-shrinking medication, as a way to keep the urinary passage open in men with prostate enlargement.
Today it is mostly done for fun.
There are of course, a number of reasons people may enjoy sounding:
It’s a form of penetrative play using a completely different hole than usual, and the physical sensation of a sound in the urethra can be intense and exciting. Some sounding enthusiasts compare the sensation to anal fisting, although personally I am not qualified to judge the comparison.
Sounding can be a real mindfuck experience. It’s penetration, but in one’s penis, which for many men is strongly associated with the act of penetrating. Some people enjoy the way that feels emotionally, while for others it is intensely upsetting in way that can be hard to describe. Anecdotally, guys who’ve done a lot of receptive docking play don’t seem as freaked out by it, perhaps because they are already used to the idea of having their penises penetrated, albeit in a different way.
Deep sounding can be an awesome way to do prostate stimulation of a kind many won’t ever have experienced.
For folk who like some pain in their sex, sounding can be done in a way that is erotically painful, mostly through size choices and how one stimulates the sound when it’s in place.
Going back to the first point about penetration in a new hole, there’s dominance and submission play that can be revolve around the act of one person sounding another.
So then, how to go about doing this whole thing?
First off, get an actual sound or sounding set. It’s a far better idea to drop fifty to one hundred dollars on proper sounds than it is to go around the house finding thing that might fit in one’s urethra. I really am quite serious on this point. For every person who emails me to rave about their homemade sounds, I have two messages telling some horror story involving a straw from a fast food restaurant or a too-sharp knitting needle.
Second off, get some sterile surgical lubricant. If you are in the United States, the best in my opinion is “SurgiLube,” which it can be ordered off Amazon.com or from a local pharmacy. I buy a one gross (144 packets) box of 2oz packets for around forty dollars. There are other companies that are cheaper, but they don’t tend to be as as pleasant to use.
It is of course, important to clean and rinse the sounds well after each use. I play with multiple people, so I use a hospital-grade surface disinfectant on my sounds. These days my kit has Super Sani-Cide Wipes in it, but Mada-Cide, and similar products will work. Once the sounds are disinfected, the Sani-Cide is cleaned off with Dr. Bonners or a mild dish soap to ensure that the disinfectant can’t be introduced to the body in later play. I then do a quick wipe down with rubbing alcohol right before use to remove any dirt or surface contaminants.
My professional opinion is against boiling metal sounds to clean them. The majority of sounds people use are plated in a chrome or stainless plating over a base metal. Boiling can cause separation or cracking in the plating, which can cause everything from internal lacerations to an increased risk of bacterial infection. Many silicone sounds however are fine to boil.
Now on to the practical hands-on info.
In the most common sounding sets, for instance of Hagar dilators or Dittle straight sounds, there are a range of available diameters. It’s best not to start out with the smallest sound in the set if at all possible. The smaller the sound diameter, the higher the risk that a screw up (especially at first) could puncture the urethral wall, which sucks about as hard as one would think.
The ideal first sound is the largest size that can be fit into the urethral with a minimum of resistance and no feeling of stretching. Keep in mind that the urinary passage in the glans of the penis, in people so equipped, is often wider than the urethra itself.
It’s important to apply lubricant to the first several inches of the sound, as well as around the meatus (piss slit).
Then on someone with external anatomy: Being careful to stabilize the sound with the hand, place one end into the meatus, and carefully and gently guide it into the urethra. Use an absolute minimum of force, if any, at this point. Ideally let the sound “fall” in as far as it wants. Once it stops going in, just let it be for a bit, before experimenting with moving it in and out about 1/2 inch. At this point it may also be a good idea to take out and re-lube the sound.
On someone with internal anatomy: Stabalize the sound with one finger supporting its weight as it is guided to the meatus. Be extremely careful that the sound does not slip past the meatus and enter into the vaginal passage. If it does, the sound needs to be cleaned, dried, and re-lubricated before attempting again, or the risk of a UTI will be very high. Once the sound enters the urethra, apply gentle pressure until resistance is encountered, then pull the sound back about a quarter to a half inch. Keep in mind that the urethra on someone with internal anatomy is much shorter than on someone with external anatomy.
Once accustomed to the sensation of having something in the urethra, which can take anywhere from a few seconds, to minutes, to never, there are several options: go to a larger size, trying going a bit deeper, or begin stimulation though contact with the sound or moving the sound, more on that in a bit.
The following only applies to folks with external anatomy:
To move the sound deeper into the body, begin applying gentle force on the sound. This may be uncomfortable. People sometimes feel pressure or a burning sensation, both of which is pretty normal. What is absolutely to be avoided is any sharp pain, or the feeling that one spot hurts more, especially at the tip of the sound.
Experimentation may be necessary to find the right angle of the penis to the body for the urethral passage to be conducive to the sound going past the base of the penis. In the case of Hagar sounds in particular, which have a distinct curvature, the sound may want to rotate around its axis to continue deeper.
As a rule, for people with external anatomy entering the bladder, which you emphatically do not want to do, is not much of a concern as long the sound isn’t forced once it hits resistance inside the body.
It is always possible to check how deep the sound is by feeling for the end between the legs along the perineum (taint). If the sound vanishes into a penis, especially if in the case of people who are rather well endowed, it’s nothing to worry about. It can always be retrieved by finding the bottom end either at your perineum or along your shaft (depending on sound and penis lengths) and pushing up from there.
Regardless of anatomy, there’s a good chance some burning with urination for a few hours or even days will occur after sounding, particularly for people who are new to it. This is normal, as is a small amount a bit of blood in the urine. Obviously, if discharge, fever, or cramping, occurs seek medical attention. Also, people who are prone to urinary tract infections may simply not be well suited for this form of play.
Once accustomed to, and comfortable with the whole idea of sounding, there are many ways to experimenting with sensation and play.
As mentioned earlier, on people with prostates, a sound can be used as a form of prostate stimulation, either on its own or in conjunction with anal penetration. To use a sound for prostate stimulation, insert the largest size comfortable past the base of the penis, so the the tip of the sound is two finger widths below the scrotum. Then gentle rock the sound back and forth about an inch towards the body and then away from it. Everyone’s body is different, so it may take some experimentation to find the exact placement and preferred degree of movement.
On people with internal anatomy, gentle rocking is also sometimes found to be pleasurable. Digitally stimulating the sound through the vaginal wall, and doing digital G-spot stimulation with a sound in place are other internal-anatomy-specific forms of play.
Some people enjoy moving a sound in and out of their body in a manner not unlike penetrative sex. If trying this form of play, it’s a good idea to drop down a size or two and make sure to use plenty of lube. Otherwise, abrasion of the urethra will almost certainly cause pain during urination. Use short motions, and keep the speed low and well controlled. In the case of someone with internal anatomy do not “bang” the sound up against the urinary sphincter at the end of the urethra. This is a bad idea on someone with external anatomy too, but would be highly unlike to occur.
On the subject of pain, sounding can be used as a tool for erotic pain. There are several easy and reasonably safe ways to accomplish this. The first is to stimulate or massage the sound through the urethra. This compresses the urethral between the fingers and the metal of the sound, which can range from uncomfortable to intensely painful, and can be done regardless of whether someone has internal or external anatomy. Using sounds that are uncomfortably large, or sounding someone with little or no lube are other ways sounding can be a tool for erotic pain.
Done properly, sounding is on the safer end of the spectrum of kinky play. Be safe and have fun!
NOTE: If you’re interested in having me come teach my sounding workshop, which covers safety, proper use of sounds, and how to use them in sex & BDSM, or any of my other kink/BDSM/sexuality workshops for that matter, I am currently taking bookings for Winter/Spring 2013 appearances. For more information, contact me here
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84 thoughts on “How To Use Urethral Sounds”
Trooper
NOVEMBER 12, 2012 AT 6:03 PM
Hi , i have used a insert before but it was a short one about 1inch of usable lengt and the girt is 6 mm im guessing its about 1/4 of an inch and its hollow.
I found it verry pleasurable, and today i impulsivly ran into a erotik shop and found a urethral vibrator. its made of medical silicone and feels verry soft and silky.
Its the same girt as my previous insert. only its 15cm long im guessing thats about 6inch
And has verry strong vibrations, it has mupltiple programs from soft to hard and difrence in pulsation.
I havent used it yet cause i wanted some more info about using longer inserts or sounds as you like to call them.
Now id like to know what your opinion is about using silicone based sounds.
In form of hygiene , do i treat it the same way? Im guessing that even medical silicone is verry resistable agains chemical exposure, so sing alcohol
Also have you been able to reach an orgasm using only the sounds? meaning no masturbation or prostate milking?
This is a link to a picture of the product so you have an idea.
http://images.search.conduit.com/ImagePreview/?q=you2toys%20silicone%20dilator&ctid=CT2849859&searchsource=3&start=0&pos=0
greetings
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Trooper
NOVEMBER 12, 2012 AT 6:06 PM
sry my bad : In form of hygiene , do i treat it the same way? Im guessing that even medical silicone is verry resistable agains chemical exposure, so using alcohol ,done or not done? Just say that alcohol would damage it… is it still good only using soap?
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Wintersong
NOVEMBER 13, 2012 AT 3:11 PM
I love my silicone sounds, but I consider them to be ONE-person toys, and clean them with soap and water after each use, and give them a quick wipe with rubbing alcohol before I insert them.
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roger
NOVEMBER 23, 2012 AT 3:11 PM
Q, Hi new to this sort of play..Read your artical on inserting sounds,,is this done when your penis is erect or soft,kind regards.
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Wintersong
NOVEMBER 23, 2012 AT 4:17 PM
It really varies from person to person. I strongly suggest people try sounding for the first time while soft, and there are lots of people who only sound when soft or for whom sounding alone doesn’t cause an erection. If hard sounding is something you find yourself wanting to be doing a lot, I strongly suggest only using straight, rosebud, or silicone sounds, whereas hagars, pratts, etc can be used on a flaccid penis.
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Darragh Gilmartin
JANUARY 27, 2013 AT 8:24 AM
Pretty informative.
I have fashioned a 5mm x 35 cm sound from an anodised aluminum crochet hook. I machined and polished the working end to a bullet shape. With adequate lube, the sound slides in easily and I have no burning when I pee afterward. My technique is short gentle strokes while I roll the sound in my fingers. I have inserted it 23 cm, 16 of which are “below grade”. I have “bottomed out” but do not know if it is the back of the bladder or the sphincter.
When I first went deep, probably passing into the prostate, I would get a sudden rush and ejaculation would come on in less than 30 seconds. This still happens when I am in the mood but I want to go tho a wider sound. I found a short 7mm crochet hook with a perfectly shaped handle end and experienced a “spike” of pleasure and pain combined the first time the tip passed through the bottleneck about 1.5 cm and now it passes in snugly but pleasantly. If you pull gently out on your penis, it will straighten the tube for easier insertion.
I am considering getting one of these:
http://cdn103.iofferphoto.com/img/item/189/694/104/stainless-steel-vibrating-urethral-sound-xlarge-bc672.jpg
It is 7mm, certainly long enough and the shape of the tip is right. There are others like it that have a 7mm shaft with a 9.5mm tip which is wider than I want to go. I am curious if anyone here has experienced one of these. Seems like vibration might improve the experience.
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SAM
FEBRUARY 2, 2013 AT 10:17 AM
I performed Urethral Sounding on myself. Now my urethra is really Burning and it hurts a lot while I pee. HELP?
I used a Soft rubber wire (I made it by cutting my earphone wire and made the tip round, also removed the metal wire from inside to make sure it won’t puncture the urethra while inserting).
The length of the wire must be 11 inches. Width 2 mm.
I reached down to my Bladder because I when I inserted it the whole inside I felt like I was gonna pee.
Also I didn’t sterilize it, instead I used Hand Sanitizer which contains alcohol and on the Sanitizer-Bottle it says Kills 99.9% of germs.
Anyway I did it the. But now my Urethra really Burns and it hurts while I pee. I don’t know how many days its gonna hurt?
IS THIS NORMAL TO BURN, for how long?
Also I am little worried about the Sanitizer ‘coz it was not sterilized?
I am really worried, someone help me. I am sure I won’t do Urethral Sounding again in my life.
PS:: As a lube, I didn’t use anything ‘coz I was exited enough self lubricating with Pre Cum…
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Wintersong
FEBRUARY 2, 2013 AT 6:16 PM
Disclaimer: remember k**s, I’m not a doctor and you shouldn’t take what I say as medical advice>
Well, first off you didn’t follow any of the proper clean procedures that I recommend, and you are the perfect example of why I say:
First off, get an *actual* sound or sounding set. You’re way better off dropping $50 on proper sounds than finding thing around the house that might fit in your urethra. Seriously, I mean it.
at the beginning of this post.
That said, you’re probably fine. There are chemicals in the rubber of wire covers that keep them pliable which can be irritants, and getting hand santizer in your urinary tract is probably a real irritant too. Then theres the fact that wire is not going to slide down your urethra the way a rounded rod of metal or silicone will, and you’ve probably scrapped the crap out of your urethra (rounding out the tip doesn’t matter, the urethra is delicate).
If the burning, particularly on urination, sticks around for a few more days go see the doctor, you’ve won yourself a UTI. Beyond that, you’ll know for next time why I say it’s so important to do it right. And I promise, there will be a next time. Once you’re at the point of shoving random things in your pee-hole, you’ll be back.
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Don
FEBRUARY 7, 2013 AT 10:29 AM
you can go to walgreens cvs or other pharmacies and ask for azo urinary tract it will relieve the pain when you pee don’t worry about the color of your pee will be a bright orange will clear up in a about a day at most 2 days i use it my self. there is 2 kinds of azo one has prune or something to that affect the other is just for irritation or small pains
in a blue box small pill 2 in each pack i take 2 pills and that usually takes care of it.
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Pierced1
FEBRUARY 20, 2013 AT 8:06 AM
I received my Pratt set of urethal sounding instruments yesterday, and could’nt wait to experiment. I pretty closely followed your instructions above. Initially my penis was soft, but I became very erect pretty quickly. I was able to go to a fairly large size, and it seemed to go in far, leaving only about an inch outside of my penis.
So you think it was hitting my prostate? It seemed to. Sometimes I palpate my prostate in the shower, up my ass with a finger. This was a very similar sensation.
I had a huge orgasm without any cum comeing out of my penis. As I took out the sounding tool, there was some cum – but I guess most of it went into my bladder.
As you mentioned, for a first timer, there was a little blood, and slight burning sensation, but that was all seemingly minimal. This morning, my piss was also with a tingling sensation – which instantly gave me an erection.
Anyway, this was great fun. Thanks for all the tips
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bobbyd
FEBRUARY 22, 2013 AT 8:43 AM
I have just started using sounds and have taken your suggestions to heart. My God it feels so good. I have done this with my cock soft and hard. I love the feeling both ways and it gets me really excited. I just let the sound slide in as far as it would go by itself and left it there for quite a while. It aroused me so much I came while the sound was in. Damn I like this feeling.
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Amateur Sounder
FEBRUARY 26, 2013 AT 11:48 AM
Hi.
I tried sounding about a year back with the refill of a pen, and some other things too. Never went more than a couple inches though; my penis being about 6 inches. The first and second time it burned for a few days but then it was fine. I never did clean the things; just salivated them. I guess I was just lucky for not getting UTI.
Anyways after a long time, a few days back I tried it again this time with a very thin gold chain that went inside completely! Again, I only salivated it; no lube no sanitizer. Guess I’m crazy. Anyways, this time it didn’t hurt or burn afterwards AT ALL (okay maybe a little near the tip of the penis but that’s it).
No real worries here mate. Just wanted to share my experience :)
But do you think I should probably not continue with the gold chain? You think if not this time, then perhape next time things may get out of hand? I mean hell, God forbid a link might snap and it might stay there forever! The horror!
So I’m thinking the reason why it didn’t hurt at all this time is because a chain can twist inside the urethra and adjust unlike a solid metal bar. Maybe the urethral sounding ‘industry’ should try experimenting with chain sounds. Just sayin..
Peace.
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Troopter
FEBRUARY 27, 2013 AT 4:07 PM
Hi ,
I was wondering if you would be able to help me out …
I have been playing for some time now with my 6inch silicone sound, but its not long enuf to reach into my prostate. And thats where i want to be , i have been thinking of buyin a pratt set , wich has that curve , wich i think you need to reach the prostate or the bladder.
Now the thing is that i always get an erection during sounding , and i am worried that a straight sound is ging to damage something when i try to reach the prostate or the bladder.
I know that pratts are used to reach the prostate , but used on a flaccid penis.
So then again i am worried that the curve will damage something when i get an erection wich in my case is un-avoidable.
Please correct me if i am wrong on one or both of the above.
And what is the best sound for my purpose? ( reaching the prostate and or bladder)
Thank you for your time.
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Wintersong
FEBRUARY 28, 2013 AT 9:15 PM
A lot of has to do with the curvature of your erect penis.
Personally, I find that I can get *very* deep penetration with a straight sound depending on the angle of my penis to my body (look up username “poly_winter” on x-tube for an example), whereas I find the curvature of a hagar sound for instance to be really problematic.
I don’t happen to have much experience with Pratt sounds, but from talking to other people, it’s a real mixed bag. Some people like them, lots don’t (particularly for erect sounding).
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imchasinyou
DECEMBER 2, 2013 AT 8:04 PM
Reaching the prostate is done 2 ways. One via the urethra and the other is via the rectum. When going via the urethra, in my experience, you would want to use the straight style of sound, nothing small nor nothing too big that you have discomfort and CAREFULLY try different positions by raising and lowering your penis to allow further insertion. Remember the prostate lies right next to the bladder and completely surrounds the urethra. You will know when you hit the bladder as the muscle that allows you to retain urine will produce sharp pains when probed. Ive been on occasion to use a Foley Catheter to reach mine.
Exp: I sound regularly. I currently wear a 10 mm by 135 mm (25/64″ X 5 5/16″) dilator with 4 swells and a through hole for urination and have even came with it in. Similar to this http://penisplugsandmore.com/thruholeglansring_waves.htm
I might add, IF you are pierced, Prince Albert or what ever through the glans, its going to be very hard to stretch your urethra if this is what you are doing. The piercing itself causes scar tissue to form and it becomes almost like a very hard “tube” through the piercing. I am pierced and can wear a straight shaft or a captive ring in size 12.
These are my experiences and my personal opinion and should NEVER be taken as advise or a directive o your personal situation.
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Jagtstein
MARCH 16, 2013 AT 6:15 PM
Meanwhile, I get a 13-mm Hegar dilator in my urethral orifice into externus. And a 11-mm sound I get past my prostate. The increase of 0.5 mm has been shown to be effective.
I just pushed a 11-mm Hegar dilator of my prostate to stretch over. Very pleasant. One can also stimulate the prostate.
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wantitbad
APRIL 16, 2013 AT 1:52 PM
I use a 41 Fr sound (just slightly bigger than 1/2″)
Asolutely some of the best play around. Often have no requirement for ejaculation. Very satified & fatigued after an hour or two of play. Highly recommended!!
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wantitbad
APRIL 16, 2013 AT 1:55 PM
Sorry I also should have said i use Rosebuds & Pratts for 2 totally different experiences.
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robert
MAY 10, 2013 AT 6:13 PM
Hi, I just received my sounding rods. I used one before reading your suggestion. There was a little blood, but today I use the size you suggested and there was a little more blood. I didn’t force it in, just let it slide down per your suggestion. I actually never did anything with It and just let it rest in my penis. How long should that keep happening? I know you said it as normal, but I don’t want to cause a problem. Also, I didn’t get hard while stroking myself and never came. Was it the stroking that caused a problem?
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Wintersong
MAY 17, 2013 AT 12:38 AM
It’s possible that the rods, the lube, or residual of what you used to clean them, is something that you’re sensitive to and it’s causing problems for your urethral tissue, which is *very* delicate.
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russ dawg
MAY 24, 2013 AT 2:44 PM
is it possible to have sex with a penis plug or a short sound in?
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Wintersong
MAY 25, 2013 AT 1:05 AM
Personally I think the risk of puncturing the urethral wall is too high with a rigid metal plug, but I’ve had sex with a silicone sound/plug that stayed in place well (you could also use a condom to help keep it in place).
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Pierced1
MAY 28, 2013 AT 9:27 PM
I’ve been enjoying my pratt sounds as I posted in February, but today I was diagnosed with Pancratitus, which is very painful and has with it fever with intense chills. Then it cased me to have to miss work. I’m not thinking this is a safe procedure or way to masterbate. Then I’ve read how prostatitis leads to prostate cancer, so I’m really freaked about this think. I just caution everyone on this issue.
Pierced1
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Pierced1
MAY 29, 2013 AT 9:15 PM
I apologize for the above posting. Last night I was running a fever and was getting mixed up on a few things. Today, with treatment, things are much better. I was diagnosed with Prostatitis, which I came to understand is sometimes caused by inserting catheter type materials into the penis. It is very painful, and will likely re-occur if I do the sounding again. I had to go into urgent care and am now on a two week regimen of antibiotic. Yes, I have been missing work, and the fever and pain does make you get confused on details. Again, my apologies for the inaccurate information in the posting from May 28, but for all of those reading this blog, I felt it important to share my experiences.
pierced1
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Wintersong
JUNE 9, 2013 AT 11:10 AM
Prostatitis can be caused by any number of things, although yes, inserting something into the urethra can greatly increase your risk.
That’s why I emphasis the importance of keeping sounds *very* clean, using sterile lubricant, etc.
Alex
JULY 12, 2013 AT 5:36 AM
What type of sounds do you recommend for a beginner? Hegar, Pratt, rosebud, van buren.
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Wintersong
JULY 17, 2013 AT 3:21 AM
Personally, I like straight sounds. But Hagar’s or Rosebuds would work well too.
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Ed
JULY 13, 2013 AT 3:53 PM
I’ve used metal sounds a few times (alone). I’m paranoid about possible infection and the trouble it takes to clean them, otherwise I’d use them more often. Each time I have experienced some pain with pissing afterwards for a few hours. Is this from the sound? is it from the lube? Would silicone sounds be any less painful after? If only I am using silicone sounds, is it enough to clean them with soap and water? Thanks.
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Wintersong
JULY 17, 2013 AT 3:23 AM
The discomfort you’re describing is quite common, especially when you’re new to sounding.
Urethral tissue is not exactly accustomed to friction or stimulation and it gets irritated. This can last up to a couple of days.
In my experience this is even MORE common with silicone, but I haven’t compared with many other people or varieties of silicone sounds.
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luv2sound
JULY 17, 2013 AT 9:33 PM
I have tried sounding and I’m hooked. I bought a set of Pratts on Amazon for under $25 and also purchased some surgical gel. The smallest is 12 on one end and 15 on the other. The size I’m using now is 21 and 23. I clean it with an alcohol swab before and after use. U find that i can insert it the full 12″ into my urethra. The final three inches or so, I find I must totally relax before it will glide right in. I’m supposing it is through my prostate, because pressure before that time tells me I’m stimulating the prostate. Once it is inserted I find I can cum in about a minute. What a rush! I feel a slight burning afterward when I urinate, but that is just because my body is flushing out the urethra. After that, I have no other negative effects.
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Jagtstein
JULY 18, 2013 AT 4:17 PM
Meanwhile, I get a 13-mm Hegar dilator in my external urethral orifice into it. And a Hegar dilator with 11-mm diameter and a length of 20 cm I get past my prostate. The increase of 0.5 mm has proved to be effective.
I just pushed a 11-mm Hegar dilator in my prostate to stretch over. Very pleasant. So you can also stimulate the prostate.
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Jeffrey
AUGUST 6, 2013 AT 8:40 PM
Today I did urethral sounding for the first time, I bought. Rosebuds 6mm. I washed my penis twice with antibacterial soap, then wiped the sound and head of my penis with alcohol wipe, I used doctors gloves and surgilube. Found the experience to be very pleasurable. Was able to insert the full 11 inchs, the last couple was the most pleasurable. When the whole 11 inchs was inside me I could feel some pressure and resistance so I assume I was at the prostate. I want more intense pleasure, where should I go from here that is safe?
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Wintersong
AUGUST 6, 2013 AT 11:06 PM
At 11″ inside of your body, unless you have a VERY long penis, it’s likely that you were at the entrance to your bladder, and you *don’t* want to push any further.
If you do want to explore those particular sensations, you could explore catheter play.
To get more intense sensations out of your sounding experience, you can use a larger sound and you can stop with the “bud” of the rosebud around your prostate. Next time you’re erect, press firmly around your perineum (taint) below your scrotum and along your urethra until you feel some significant sensation. Then, next time you’re sounding, feel for when the bud gets to right around there and then experiment with moving it up and down, tipping it back and forth to press on the prostate, and massaging with your hand over and around the end of the sound.
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soundsgood
AUGUST 16, 2013 AT 8:42 AM
I recently purchased a set of rosebuds and am extremely happy with them. They are easy to use and very pleasurable. I am curious as to how far I can insert them. I’m using a 4mm and a 6mm. They go in about 8 or 9 inches without any problem but then there is resistance. I know that its quite easy to do damage so I’m reluctant to use any more than slight pressure. I’ve tried adjusting the angle but the resistance is still there. How much pressure is considered safe? How do I know if it’s safe to go in deeper? Any advice or information would be greatly appreciated. By the way, thanks for creating this thread. It’s quite informative and really good to learn about peoples experiences.
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Wintersong
APRIL 15, 2014 AT 12:19 PM
If you’re hitting resistant at 8 or 9 inches, that’s probably a good place to be stopping. You DON’T want to be penetrating your bladder. If that’s play that interests you, go the catheter route.
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Jean pierre lafontaine
APRIL 21, 2014 AT 4:36 PM
hello… i’m new to urethral sound..it’s my first time…last week.i began with a 4.5 mn et after three days i’m at 6.5 a little pain when a pee a little bood,,,,but only for one day .will the pain disappeared with time…will it be like the anal plug when i first used a buttplug it was about 1/2 inch and now i take 2 inches 1/2 ..No plain only pleasure..
thank you
Regards
Jean Pierre
Wintersong
APRIL 23, 2014 AT 5:13 PM
I’m a big fan of taking things slowly. If you’re having pain or blood, give yourself time some time off and be gentler when you resume.
explorer
APRIL 24, 2014 AT 6:52 PM
thank you for your advice,,
James
AUGUST 17, 2013 AT 12:49 PM
I have been experimenting with a tens unit, and French catheters since the early nineties , and practicing sterile techniques to avoid urethral tears, infections, and the like. Being in the medical profession, I have been able to procure such instruments, and all the posts regarding ‘pre and post usage of sounds, peeing, mild blood, etc’ hits the mark! Like the very first time I masterbated, and came when I was 15 years old, I will never forget THOSE erotic sensations! Additionally, when I first ‘catherized’ myself with a French catheter, I was able to advance the cath well past the 10+ inches, and pass the spincther by the prostate, and into my bladder. My God, those sensations were out of this world~The erotic stirrings, and pleasureable contractions made me feel like the first time I masterbated to climax, but I withheld cumming as I slowly pulled the catheter out of my erect cock- copious precum oozed out, which excited me further, and when I decided to cum, I shot a load like never before! Even at age 63, I still use sounds, the tens unit, and cock rings to self pleasure myself! Be safe, and have fun out there!
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WhatDoesItSoundLike
AUGUST 19, 2013 AT 1:31 PM
I’ve been wondering for a while, is it safe to use a sound while actually penetrating someone? I’ve noticed that some sounds are vibrating, which I think would be incredibly fun and make sex all the more enjoyable, be it vaginal or anal. Do you know if this is a viable new addition to sex?
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Wintersong
APRIL 15, 2014 AT 12:18 PM
I know people who’ve used the soft silicone sounds during penetration play but I’d STRONGLY advise against anything else. Sex is not the most controlled environment in history, and I’d be very loath to introduce something quite literally inflexible into the mix.
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Trooper
AUGUST 22, 2013 AT 2:34 PM
Hi ive been sounding for almost a year now and the fact is i never had any problems inserting sounds from 1mm to 9mm since then ive been trying to insert 10mm and from the moment it reaches the point where my sound goes from 9 mm to 10 it hurts a bit , then as i progress slowly it starts burning then the sound pops a bit inward.
I cannot do anything to stop it from doing that, and this is the point where its realy hurting.
But , fortunate i have a high pain threshold and i can keep it there for a while.
Then when im a bit acostumed to the pain i try pushing it a little deeper.
And here is where the question comes in :
I cant realy say if it is the opening of the urethera thats still burning from the stretching or the urethera itself that hurts from stretching.
I have never bleeded from this , that is why i still try. (BTW: i use a lot of sterile lube)
Is this normal? If yes, how long wil this “upgrade” take? aproximatly?
( not everyone is the same, i know)
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simon brown
SEPTEMBER 4, 2013 AT 2:17 PM
whats the best angle to have your penis when sounding
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Wintersong
APRIL 15, 2014 AT 12:16 PM
There’s no one right answer to that question, it’s going to vary from person to person and situation to situation.
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castoutangel
SEPTEMBER 6, 2013 AT 3:43 AM
Just did my first sounding session. It was pretty amazing, and I am definitely going to continue. I did have one question. I was going deep, rather than big, and I thought I had hit my prostrate, because I could feel the end of the sound leave my penis but it wasn’t going a whole lot farther. I couldn’t get it past, and I didn’t want to force it, but it felt good to kind of “fuck” into it. Then when I pulled out I started peeing. I didn’t even know it was coming. I didn’t have a problem cutting it off, but it made me wonder if I was at my bladder rather than my prostrate. I was probably around eight inches in. My penis is a around six and a half inches when fully hard, and I wasn’t fully hard, but I wasn’t soft either.
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luv2sound
OCTOBER 6, 2013 AT 12:52 AM
Could you tell me what the numbers mean on my set of Pratt’s. I feel very comfortable with the #27 all the way in (the 25 is on the other end). With some warm up, I can maneuver the 29 in, but the 31 is too tight and even with trying to stretch the hole, it still won’t go in yet. I’m practicing patience. My set goes all the way to a 43> What do the numbers mean?
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Wintersong
MARCH 6, 2014 AT 2:15 AM
I’m not sure. They could be French catheter numbers, or they could be milimeters
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BC
OCTOBER 18, 2013 AT 3:56 PM
I tried sounding for the first time, it wasvery pleasurable
I was laying down on my back and gravity just took over and they slipped in
I have a hagar set. When I got to the 9 and 10 mm I lubed too much of the sound and it slipped through my fingers and went entirely inside me I freaked grabbed for it and pushed it too deep. Had intense pain and(after I found I could push it out without a problem) I had blood. Now it burns real bad when I pee, and burns for about 5 minutes after.
Did I puncture myself or do you think its just bad irritation. I want to do it again but I’m a little scared of what happened
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Joe
OCTOBER 24, 2013 AT 6:17 PM
I recommend using a thermometer. I never had any pain or discomfort with it, and it can go in a long way without any discomfort, period. I mean, think about it. The thermometer is made to go smoothly and safely into the body. The metal tip is completely safe, and easily goes in with a lot of lube. I especially like it when it finally stimulates my ejaculation reflex, god that’s a good feeling when I come.
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Wintersong
MARCH 6, 2014 AT 2:13 AM
Please folks, let’s try to stick to things that don’t have quite this level of direness in the event of a materials failure.
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Zigfried
NOVEMBER 14, 2013 AT 6:29 PM
Have you tried sounding with a butt plug or aneros prostate stimulating device inserted at the same time. Any comments would be appreciated thank you
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Johnny Insa
NOVEMBER 15, 2013 AT 7:56 AM
I just bought a set of Haggar Sounds 8 count . The smallest is 3-4 mm up to largest being around 3/4 inch thick . I have been able to use easily the first 3 largest being 8mm thick.
All the sounds are 8 inches long and one in is larger than the other. My question is how to I get to a larger size 10 mm and more. 8 mm went in fine but 10 mm barely goes in and I tried for a while with a lot of silicone lube and it barely entered my uretha before burning pain started. I have no idea how the really big sounds in this set could ever work.
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Wintersong
MARCH 6, 2014 AT 2:12 AM
That’s because Hagar sounds aren’t actually designed for urethral use (which I’ll be addressing soon in my revised version of this post), but rather for cervical dilation. Most people will never get to the huge ones as far as urethral insertion, although there are those gifted individuals out there who manage.
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Farmer12027
DECEMBER 1, 2013 AT 10:06 AM
I find 2 uses for sounding. One is masturbating, as a way to provide extra stimulation. The other is when my wife is providing CBT. She has found ways to use the sounds to add considerable “pleasure”. One is, put the sounds (stainless) in the fridge first. The coldness is awesome to feel. The other is to dip the sound in something like lemon juice or Scope (or the exotic ginger root) before insertion. The modest pain is very good, and no long lasting problems result.
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Daniel
DECEMBER 2, 2013 AT 10:32 PM
Is it supposed to hurt when you sound your penis for the first time
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Wintersong
MARCH 6, 2014 AT 2:11 AM
Some people find that it does, but I’d encourage you to try to mitigate it as much as possible until you have more experience. Use small sounds and plenty of lube. You also may simply find that sounding doesn’t produce sensations that work for you.
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Ec Non
DECEMBER 22, 2013 AT 1:58 AM
would anyone recommend Vaseline? would that burn more than other lubes?
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Marie Rowan
JANUARY 8, 2014 AT 7:08 PM
Hello, so nice to find you. My friend and I both Submissives have been experimenting with sounding. We just bought a sounding kit which came with no instructions. So that is how I’ve come to find you. In our sounding kit there is one with a ring attached at the top. We are curious to know what that specific purpose is for?
Hoping to hear from you…
also every year we have a northern exposure experience 3 Day weekend of Education for all BDSM and this year will be no other exposures 4th year I believe or 5th I can’t remember. Anyhow “Northern Exposure” is located in Alaska. Have you ever been here? I’m going to suggest to the Foxden who are the ones who bring up all the presenters and suggest that they snatch you up so to speak lol.
I’m going to email your page to them…well hopefully you’ll be hearing from them.
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Wintersong
MARCH 6, 2014 AT 2:06 AM
I’m certainly familiar with Northern Exposure, Lee Harrington, a friend of mine has done it, even before he moved up that way.
The only sounds with rings on top that I’ve personally seen were ones that could vibrate, usually taking a AAA battery
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Rod
JANUARY 11, 2014 AT 2:10 PM
I use a push from a gasoline motor to shove up my penis, it’s about 10 inches long and 1/4inch in diameter ,it is very smooth , is that ok to use ?
I have had very strong climaxes with it. It goes in when I’m soft but ends up hard. I’m not that big about 4.5 inches when hard.
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Wintersong
MARCH 6, 2014 AT 2:05 AM
I’m a big fan of keeping to medical-grade objects (316LVM steel, titanium, and high-grade silicone) when it comes to sticking things in my body personally.
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Stanley Reed
FEBRUARY 17, 2014 AT 11:21 AM
I just started sounding using a Heager 6mm. I find it very enjoyable. My problem is I have a burning at the meatus. It makes insurtion a problem. I would like to go to a 7mm , but i am not sure how to make this step. I am doing it with a soft penis. If i use a smaller sound first this makes insurtion of the 7mm better. It also takes a lot of pressure to insert. Please help me, because i want to increase in size with out the burning. I enjoy sounding and do not want to stop. Thank you for any help you can give me.
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Wintersong
MARCH 6, 2014 AT 2:04 AM
MILD burning sensations are not unheard of. I’d say that you may be a bit sensitive to either the lube or sound you’re using, which combined with the increased sensation from the larger sound is contributing to the issue. Also, Heagar sounds are rather blunt (being cervical dilators) and you may benefit from trying a more tapered sound like a Dittel (straight) set.
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cledro
FEBRUARY 24, 2014 AT 1:52 PM
Hi. I am used to sound with soft or hard sounds. I wanted to try the rosebud sounds but in the sex shop I was told that they refuse to sell them because it happened some time that they break inside the urethra ! It makes me fear but I wtill want to try a rosebud urethral sound. What is your opinion ?
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Wintersong
MARCH 6, 2014 AT 2:01 AM
Many of the rosebuds sounds I see are *very* low quality, and breakage is an unlikely, but hardly impossible risk. If you’re worried about it, get high quality versions by specifically searching for German-made bile duct dialators (which is what “rosebud sounds” are).
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Tyler
FEBRUARY 26, 2014 AT 3:17 PM
Hi there. I love your blog on sounding. My wife and I have been doing this for a few weeks now and we have been doing great but I am at a point now where I can not get a bigger sound to go in without pain. Before we just lubed it up well and stuck it in tge tip and let the weight of the sound do the work and it would slowly slide into my urethra. This is no longer working with a bigger size and if I put any pressure on the sound I feel pain. What do I do?
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Wintersong
MARCH 6, 2014 AT 2:00 AM
If you keep increasing in size you do eventually hit a point where the weight of the sound isn’t adequate to carry it into the urethra. At the same time, the pain is concerning. One thing is to add additional lube, as the lube could be getting squeegeed off by your meatus on the way in. Other than that, you might try a different kind of sound, perhaps one covering an intermediate size.
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Tim W Edwards
MARCH 3, 2014 AT 1:42 PM
what about just cover a suitable smooth object with a condomn? is condomn safe?
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Wintersong
MARCH 6, 2014 AT 1:58 AM
I’d recommend against it, mostly from a comfort perspective. Condoms are big, and will end up getting wrinkles, which will not be comfortable.
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Jake
MARCH 5, 2014 AT 12:09 AM
Awhile this is a two year old blog post, I have a question to ask on the topic. I’ve recently gone into using Hegar sounds and they have been great and fun. But something worries me and also surprises me. Before using Hegar sounds (being my first sounds and current ones of use) my penis head grew more pronounced than prior to using sounds. Prior to using sounds, the head of my penis was rather narrow and lacked shape. However after using the sounds, my penis head grew more rounded like a helmet head.There is no feeling of swelling or any stinging whatsoever. So my question is, is it normal for the head/helmet of the penis to change after the use of sounds?
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Wintersong
MARCH 6, 2014 AT 1:57 AM
I’ll admit, this is a new one to me. I wish I had a useful answer for you.
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boynxdor
MARCH 22, 2014 AT 3:18 AM
Guys, guys, guys! This is your cock we are talking about here, he’s your best friend in the whole wide world, why would you even think of shoving something not specially designed into him. It’s not as though they are that expensive.
I happened on this site and got curious so I headed off to the sex shop today and purchased a couple of beginners sounds. One was a 1 & 2mm and the other a 3 & 4 mm. I reckon I have a small urethra so I started off with the 2 and was surprised how easily it went in so I tried the 3 and got that just about all the way in. I had a good play jerking off with it in. I’m a bit averse to pain so I didn’t cum with it in but had fun anyway (that’s for next time). Glad to have no blood or pain afterwards and was defiantly worth a try. I’m not sure if I’m a convert yet but will certainly give it another go.
Thanks Wintersong for a great starting point for a complete novice :-)
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Clunk
APRIL 19, 2014 AT 6:42 PM
I bought a rosebud sounding rod, and it actually comes to a sharp point at the end. I find this very confusing, and I’m not sure it’s supposed to be that way. At least, when I bought it, I didn’t expect it to come to a point. Is that normal/safe? If I poke myself with it, it’s not enough to draw blood, but it’s enough for my body to say, “Yeah, that’s a sharp object.”
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Wintersong
APRIL 19, 2014 AT 6:45 PM
That sounds (no pun intended) like a rosebud sound that has had the “bud” come off. Is it just a straight rod with a slight point on the end, or does it bulb out noticeably?
“Rosebud sounds” are actually bile duct dilators, and many of the ones readily and cheaply available are of low quality manufacture. Coming apart at the seams where the handle or the bud are brazed to the rod itself is unfortunately not uncommon.
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Clunk
JUNE 9, 2014 AT 3:10 AM
oh, yay! it never showed me that you’d commented back. I was beginning to think I’d asked a stupid question x3
it bulbs out noticeably, then it almost comes to a round end but instead comes to a distinct point. I tried to take a picture, but with my low-quality webcam, it still looks like it’s a rounded bulb. You almost wouldn’t be able to tell it had a point until you touched the end and it bit you.
Where would you suggest getting one that’s NOT sharp on the end? :3
Nipplman
APRIL 24, 2014 AT 1:16 PM
Great discussion. Love sounding my cock. Would love to connect for mutual c2c cam play. Is there a directory of social web sites for sounders?
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Wintersong
APRIL 25, 2014 AT 2:50 AM
None that I know of, but you could try Fetlife.com or reddit.com/r/peehole
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new sounder
MAY 2, 2014 AT 8:59 AM
wow this blogging about sounding is awesome..i actually never knew this was practiced..ill tell you just the other day i was using a meat thermometer it was im guessing about 6in kind of a small one the reading head was about an inch and half in diameter of course the other end was pointed..i did it once before with regular oral thermometer..it was pleasurable..anyway the weight at the top of meat thermometer it would just slide all the way down to my meatus..i was pulling out letting it fall back down. It was nice but i wanted something more. Well guess what i used and never thought it would actually fit i used one of those round bic pens it was awesome..i took it all in (i was standing).i never heard of using lubes..it would come out slow and ide push it back up. so pleasurable..I was so horny you might say,..didnt think of the bacteria issue..i was lucky..before I started playing i ordered the eight rose buds.. anyway after i was through. i had to pee maybe half hour later and man did it burn i thought i had UTI. but it subsided so glad to hear it was normal reaction especially with no lube..burning at tip went away in 2 days so thank ill be more careful from now on..my rosebuds be here in a day of so I cant wait..thank you so much for sharing..Ive never used a lube..or thought about it…so can I use KY jelly or is there something I can buy at walmart?..I probe my rectum to message my prostate its pleasurable so Now I want to see if i can touch i with rose bud..thank you again so much..I keep you posted on my journey…Wayne..
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Wintersong
MAY 2, 2014 AT 8:49 PM
For lube, I really can’t recommend getting sterile lube highly enough! Fortunately, just about every pharmacy has it or can order it, and it isn’t very expensive. In the US the most common brand name is going to be “SurgiLube” and I’d ask for that by name at the pharmacy.
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Wireless
JUNE 7, 2014 AT 3:29 PM
I just had the best rush ever. I tried sounding at the same time I was giving myself an enema. I stroked my urethra with a str8 rod – while the warm water was flowing into me. Ejaculation was phenomena! Thanks for your blog
Tyler
JUNE 17, 2014 AT 4:42 PM
I am having a problem going bigger on my sounds. I can not get a bigger sound through the meatus of my cock, it hurts too bad when trying to insert it in. Is there anything I can do to get this next size sound in?
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Jagtstein
JUNE 17, 2014 AT 4:54 PM
Urethra input (external urethral orifice) stretch.
I always Increase in steps of 0.5 mm with Hegar Dillatoren. If you increase too fast there is a risk the cracks. Scar tissue that emerges can be stretched badly. Until now I have reached 13.5 mm begun I have with 6mm diameter.
Of course I also have a constriction at the external urethral orifice, the stretching you have to laboriously. Since a meatotomy does not help.
Of course, a Pain Relief is useful in a diameter increase. I use Xylocaine gel 2%. Since you have to be careful of course that you rangeht not be too hard because you can, otherwise injuries because you feel less pain. So just slowly increase the diameter.
For a 0.5 mm step I need about 2 to 3 months.
With a 11 mm Hegar Dillator I get past the constriction of the prostate. To stretch the prostate bottleneck I find quite enjoyable.
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How To Use Urethral Sounds
AUGUST 21, 2012 / WINTERSONG
This post totally blew up in a way I never expected. It’s gotten quite a lot of traffic over the years, and I was eventually prompted to do a revised version. Below you’ll find the original “How To Use Urethal Sounds,” followed by a more lengthy and expanded sounding primer. If the first interests you, be sure to also read the second.
Enjoy and play safe! – Winter Tashlin 4/16/14
How To Use Urethral Sounds
originally posted on 8/21/12
Sounding can be a very enjoyable way to play with ideas of penetration, fuck with gender, and experience new and hot sensations. It can also be easily incorporated into all manner of D/s play. The techniques used for sounding aren’t terribly difficult, but there are some simple steps you can take to make it safer and more enjoyable.
First off, get an *actual* sound or sounding set. You’re way better off dropping $50 on proper sounds than finding thing around the house that might fit in your urethra. Seriously, I mean it.
Second off, get some sterile surgical lubricant. The best in my opinion is “Surgilube” and you can order it off Amazon or from your local pharmacy. I buy a one gross (144 packets) box of 2oz packets. There are other companies that are a bit cheaper, but they aren’t as pleasant to use, and honestly, you can probably get a 1 gross box for around $30 and it’ll last a couple of years. If you’re just playing with yourself, you can also get an 8oz or 16oz tube as an alternative.
Clean and rinse the sounds well after each use. I play with multiple people, so I disinfect my sounds with SaniCide after each use, and then clean the SaniCide off with Dr. Bonners or a mild dish soap (you don’t want that stuff in your body), and then I do a quick wipe with rubbing alcohol right before i use them. But again, if it’s just you, you can probably just get away with just the Dr. Bronners/dish soap and the alcohol.
Now for the whole “using them” part ;-)
If you have a standard set, for instance of Hagar sounds, which are probably the most common, you’ll probably NOT want to use the smallest sound in the set. The smaller the sound, the higher the risk that you could screw up (especially at first) and puncture the urethral wall, which sucks about as hard as it sounds.
Find the largest size that you can put into your urethral with a minimum of resistance and no feeling of stretching. With Hagar sounds I most commonly start beginners off with the third size up. Remember if you’re using a Hagar set that they are dual ended, usually with a 1mm difference between sides, so that’d be the smaller side of the 2nd smallest sounding rod.
Lube the first several inches of the sound well, and also spread some lubricant around the meatus (piss slit). Being careful to stabilize the sound with your hand, place the end into the meatus, and carefully and gently guide it into the urethra. Use an absolute minimum of force, if any, at this point. Ideally you want to let the sound “fall” in as far as it wants. Once it stops going in, just let it be for a bit, focusing on the experience and sensation, and then maybe try moving it in and out about 1/2 inch. At this point you may want to take out and re-lube the sound.
Once you’re used to the sensation of having something in your urethra, which can take anywhere from a few seconds, to minutes, to never, you have two clear options: you can bump up your size a bit, or you can go a bit deeper.
Either way, you’ll likely need to use more (gentle) force to insert the sound or push it further in. This may be uncomfortable. You may feel pressure, or a burning sensation and this is pretty normal. What you DON’T want is any sharp pain or the feeling that one place hurts *more*, especially at the tip of the sound, this is a big warning sign from your body and you need to listen.
In order to take a sound deeply, you may have to experiment to find the right angle of your penis to your body for the urethral passage to be conducive to sounding once the sound passes the base of your penis. You also may find in the case of Hagar sounds in particular, that the sound wants to rotate around its axis to continue deeper.
You generally don’t have to worry about entering the bladder (which you emphatically do NOT want to do) as long as you don’t push hard against the sound once it hits resistance while pretty deep in. You can always check how deep the sound is by feeling for the end between your legs along the perineum (taint). If the sound vanishes into your penis, especially if you are rather well endowed, it’s nothing to worry about. You can always retrieve it by finding the bottom end either at your perineum or along your shaft (depending on sound and penis lengths) and pushing up from there.
There’s a good chance you’ll have some burning with urination for a few hours or even days, this is normal, as is possibly a bit of blood, particularly when you’re new to sounding. If you have a discharge, fever, or cramping, seek medical attention. Also, if you’re prone to urinary tract infections, this may not be the play for you.
Once you’re accustomed to and comfortable with the whole idea of sounding, you can start experimenting with masturbating with it in, or using the sound specifically for sensation or pain play. Applying pressure to the outside of the urethra for instance with the sound in place is a great way to add some pain both in the moment, and later, as it will be more likely to burn during later urination. You can also “fuck” your penis with the sound. Use short motions, and remember to be very careful, especially if the sound is relatively small.
Done properly, sounding is generally on the safer end of the kink/BDSM spectrum. Play safe and have fun!
An In-Depth Primer On Sounding
originally published on 12/8/13 as part of The Bilerico Project’s short-lived “How’s That Work” feature on sex and kink
Of all the myriad topics I teach on, not to mention play modalities I personally enjoy, urethral sounding is without a doubt the one that consistently gets the biggest reaction when I bring it up.
As a rule, cis guys in particular fall into one of two camps when sounding is mentioned: The first group are the men who say “I’ve always wanted to try that,” or regale me with stories of what random objects they’ve put down their own urethras. The second group tends to go pale, u*********sly cover their groin, or tell me that the very idea makes them actively nauseas.
For a bit of background, urethral sounding is the act of inserting a rigid object into the urethra, usually some considerable distance. Its origins are as a medical procedure, and it was primarily used in the days before modern prostate-shrinking medication, as a way to keep the urinary passage open in men with prostate enlargement.
Today it is mostly done for fun.
There are of course, a number of reasons people may enjoy sounding:
It’s a form of penetrative play using a completely different hole than usual, and the physical sensation of a sound in the urethra can be intense and exciting. Some sounding enthusiasts compare the sensation to anal fisting, although personally I am not qualified to judge the comparison.
Sounding can be a real mindfuck experience. It’s penetration, but in one’s penis, which for many men is strongly associated with the act of penetrating. Some people enjoy the way that feels emotionally, while for others it is intensely upsetting in way that can be hard to describe. Anecdotally, guys who’ve done a lot of receptive docking play don’t seem as freaked out by it, perhaps because they are already used to the idea of having their penises penetrated, albeit in a different way.
Deep sounding can be an awesome way to do prostate stimulation of a kind many won’t ever have experienced.
For folk who like some pain in their sex, sounding can be done in a way that is erotically painful, mostly through size choices and how one stimulates the sound when it’s in place.
Going back to the first point about penetration in a new hole, there’s dominance and submission play that can be revolve around the act of one person sounding another.
So then, how to go about doing this whole thing?
First off, get an actual sound or sounding set. It’s a far better idea to drop fifty to one hundred dollars on proper sounds than it is to go around the house finding thing that might fit in one’s urethra. I really am quite serious on this point. For every person who emails me to rave about their homemade sounds, I have two messages telling some horror story involving a straw from a fast food restaurant or a too-sharp knitting needle.
Second off, get some sterile surgical lubricant. If you are in the United States, the best in my opinion is “SurgiLube,” which it can be ordered off Amazon.com or from a local pharmacy. I buy a one gross (144 packets) box of 2oz packets for around forty dollars. There are other companies that are cheaper, but they don’t tend to be as as pleasant to use.
It is of course, important to clean and rinse the sounds well after each use. I play with multiple people, so I use a hospital-grade surface disinfectant on my sounds. These days my kit has Super Sani-Cide Wipes in it, but Mada-Cide, and similar products will work. Once the sounds are disinfected, the Sani-Cide is cleaned off with Dr. Bonners or a mild dish soap to ensure that the disinfectant can’t be introduced to the body in later play. I then do a quick wipe down with rubbing alcohol right before use to remove any dirt or surface contaminants.
My professional opinion is against boiling metal sounds to clean them. The majority of sounds people use are plated in a chrome or stainless plating over a base metal. Boiling can cause separation or cracking in the plating, which can cause everything from internal lacerations to an increased risk of bacterial infection. Many silicone sounds however are fine to boil.
Now on to the practical hands-on info.
In the most common sounding sets, for instance of Hagar dilators or Dittle straight sounds, there are a range of available diameters. It’s best not to start out with the smallest sound in the set if at all possible. The smaller the sound diameter, the higher the risk that a screw up (especially at first) could puncture the urethral wall, which sucks about as hard as one would think.
The ideal first sound is the largest size that can be fit into the urethral with a minimum of resistance and no feeling of stretching. Keep in mind that the urinary passage in the glans of the penis, in people so equipped, is often wider than the urethra itself.
It’s important to apply lubricant to the first several inches of the sound, as well as around the meatus (piss slit).
Then on someone with external anatomy: Being careful to stabilize the sound with the hand, place one end into the meatus, and carefully and gently guide it into the urethra. Use an absolute minimum of force, if any, at this point. Ideally let the sound “fall” in as far as it wants. Once it stops going in, just let it be for a bit, before experimenting with moving it in and out about 1/2 inch. At this point it may also be a good idea to take out and re-lube the sound.
On someone with internal anatomy: Stabalize the sound with one finger supporting its weight as it is guided to the meatus. Be extremely careful that the sound does not slip past the meatus and enter into the vaginal passage. If it does, the sound needs to be cleaned, dried, and re-lubricated before attempting again, or the risk of a UTI will be very high. Once the sound enters the urethra, apply gentle pressure until resistance is encountered, then pull the sound back about a quarter to a half inch. Keep in mind that the urethra on someone with internal anatomy is much shorter than on someone with external anatomy.
Once accustomed to the sensation of having something in the urethra, which can take anywhere from a few seconds, to minutes, to never, there are several options: go to a larger size, trying going a bit deeper, or begin stimulation though contact with the sound or moving the sound, more on that in a bit.
The following only applies to folks with external anatomy:
To move the sound deeper into the body, begin applying gentle force on the sound. This may be uncomfortable. People sometimes feel pressure or a burning sensation, both of which is pretty normal. What is absolutely to be avoided is any sharp pain, or the feeling that one spot hurts more, especially at the tip of the sound.
Experimentation may be necessary to find the right angle of the penis to the body for the urethral passage to be conducive to the sound going past the base of the penis. In the case of Hagar sounds in particular, which have a distinct curvature, the sound may want to rotate around its axis to continue deeper.
As a rule, for people with external anatomy entering the bladder, which you emphatically do not want to do, is not much of a concern as long the sound isn’t forced once it hits resistance inside the body.
It is always possible to check how deep the sound is by feeling for the end between the legs along the perineum (taint). If the sound vanishes into a penis, especially if in the case of people who are rather well endowed, it’s nothing to worry about. It can always be retrieved by finding the bottom end either at your perineum or along your shaft (depending on sound and penis lengths) and pushing up from there.
Regardless of anatomy, there’s a good chance some burning with urination for a few hours or even days will occur after sounding, particularly for people who are new to it. This is normal, as is a small amount a bit of blood in the urine. Obviously, if discharge, fever, or cramping, occurs seek medical attention. Also, people who are prone to urinary tract infections may simply not be well suited for this form of play.
Once accustomed to, and comfortable with the whole idea of sounding, there are many ways to experimenting with sensation and play.
As mentioned earlier, on people with prostates, a sound can be used as a form of prostate stimulation, either on its own or in conjunction with anal penetration. To use a sound for prostate stimulation, insert the largest size comfortable past the base of the penis, so the the tip of the sound is two finger widths below the scrotum. Then gentle rock the sound back and forth about an inch towards the body and then away from it. Everyone’s body is different, so it may take some experimentation to find the exact placement and preferred degree of movement.
On people with internal anatomy, gentle rocking is also sometimes found to be pleasurable. Digitally stimulating the sound through the vaginal wall, and doing digital G-spot stimulation with a sound in place are other internal-anatomy-specific forms of play.
Some people enjoy moving a sound in and out of their body in a manner not unlike penetrative sex. If trying this form of play, it’s a good idea to drop down a size or two and make sure to use plenty of lube. Otherwise, abrasion of the urethra will almost certainly cause pain during urination. Use short motions, and keep the speed low and well controlled. In the case of someone with internal anatomy do not “bang” the sound up against the urinary sphincter at the end of the urethra. This is a bad idea on someone with external anatomy too, but would be highly unlike to occur.
On the subject of pain, sounding can be used as a tool for erotic pain. There are several easy and reasonably safe ways to accomplish this. The first is to stimulate or massage the sound through the urethra. This compresses the urethral between the fingers and the metal of the sound, which can range from uncomfortable to intensely painful, and can be done regardless of whether someone has internal or external anatomy. Using sounds that are uncomfortably large, or sounding someone with little or no lube are other ways sounding can be a tool for erotic pain.
Done properly, sounding is on the safer end of the spectrum of kinky play. Be safe and have fun!
NOTE: If you’re interested in having me come teach my sounding workshop, which covers safety, proper use of sounds, and how to use them in sex & BDSM, or any of my other kink/BDSM/sexuality workshops for that matter, I am currently taking bookings for Winter/Spring 2013 appearances. For more information, contact me here
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84 thoughts on “How To Use Urethral Sounds”
Trooper
NOVEMBER 12, 2012 AT 6:03 PM
Hi , i have used a insert before but it was a short one about 1inch of usable lengt and the girt is 6 mm im guessing its about 1/4 of an inch and its hollow.
I found it verry pleasurable, and today i impulsivly ran into a erotik shop and found a urethral vibrator. its made of medical silicone and feels verry soft and silky.
Its the same girt as my previous insert. only its 15cm long im guessing thats about 6inch
And has verry strong vibrations, it has mupltiple programs from soft to hard and difrence in pulsation.
I havent used it yet cause i wanted some more info about using longer inserts or sounds as you like to call them.
Now id like to know what your opinion is about using silicone based sounds.
In form of hygiene , do i treat it the same way? Im guessing that even medical silicone is verry resistable agains chemical exposure, so sing alcohol
Also have you been able to reach an orgasm using only the sounds? meaning no masturbation or prostate milking?
This is a link to a picture of the product so you have an idea.
http://images.search.conduit.com/ImagePreview/?q=you2toys%20silicone%20dilator&ctid=CT2849859&searchsource=3&start=0&pos=0
greetings
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Trooper
NOVEMBER 12, 2012 AT 6:06 PM
sry my bad : In form of hygiene , do i treat it the same way? Im guessing that even medical silicone is verry resistable agains chemical exposure, so using alcohol ,done or not done? Just say that alcohol would damage it… is it still good only using soap?
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Wintersong
NOVEMBER 13, 2012 AT 3:11 PM
I love my silicone sounds, but I consider them to be ONE-person toys, and clean them with soap and water after each use, and give them a quick wipe with rubbing alcohol before I insert them.
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roger
NOVEMBER 23, 2012 AT 3:11 PM
Q, Hi new to this sort of play..Read your artical on inserting sounds,,is this done when your penis is erect or soft,kind regards.
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Wintersong
NOVEMBER 23, 2012 AT 4:17 PM
It really varies from person to person. I strongly suggest people try sounding for the first time while soft, and there are lots of people who only sound when soft or for whom sounding alone doesn’t cause an erection. If hard sounding is something you find yourself wanting to be doing a lot, I strongly suggest only using straight, rosebud, or silicone sounds, whereas hagars, pratts, etc can be used on a flaccid penis.
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Darragh Gilmartin
JANUARY 27, 2013 AT 8:24 AM
Pretty informative.
I have fashioned a 5mm x 35 cm sound from an anodised aluminum crochet hook. I machined and polished the working end to a bullet shape. With adequate lube, the sound slides in easily and I have no burning when I pee afterward. My technique is short gentle strokes while I roll the sound in my fingers. I have inserted it 23 cm, 16 of which are “below grade”. I have “bottomed out” but do not know if it is the back of the bladder or the sphincter.
When I first went deep, probably passing into the prostate, I would get a sudden rush and ejaculation would come on in less than 30 seconds. This still happens when I am in the mood but I want to go tho a wider sound. I found a short 7mm crochet hook with a perfectly shaped handle end and experienced a “spike” of pleasure and pain combined the first time the tip passed through the bottleneck about 1.5 cm and now it passes in snugly but pleasantly. If you pull gently out on your penis, it will straighten the tube for easier insertion.
I am considering getting one of these:
http://cdn103.iofferphoto.com/img/item/189/694/104/stainless-steel-vibrating-urethral-sound-xlarge-bc672.jpg
It is 7mm, certainly long enough and the shape of the tip is right. There are others like it that have a 7mm shaft with a 9.5mm tip which is wider than I want to go. I am curious if anyone here has experienced one of these. Seems like vibration might improve the experience.
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SAM
FEBRUARY 2, 2013 AT 10:17 AM
I performed Urethral Sounding on myself. Now my urethra is really Burning and it hurts a lot while I pee. HELP?
I used a Soft rubber wire (I made it by cutting my earphone wire and made the tip round, also removed the metal wire from inside to make sure it won’t puncture the urethra while inserting).
The length of the wire must be 11 inches. Width 2 mm.
I reached down to my Bladder because I when I inserted it the whole inside I felt like I was gonna pee.
Also I didn’t sterilize it, instead I used Hand Sanitizer which contains alcohol and on the Sanitizer-Bottle it says Kills 99.9% of germs.
Anyway I did it the. But now my Urethra really Burns and it hurts while I pee. I don’t know how many days its gonna hurt?
IS THIS NORMAL TO BURN, for how long?
Also I am little worried about the Sanitizer ‘coz it was not sterilized?
I am really worried, someone help me. I am sure I won’t do Urethral Sounding again in my life.
PS:: As a lube, I didn’t use anything ‘coz I was exited enough self lubricating with Pre Cum…
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Wintersong
FEBRUARY 2, 2013 AT 6:16 PM
Disclaimer: remember k**s, I’m not a doctor and you shouldn’t take what I say as medical advice>
Well, first off you didn’t follow any of the proper clean procedures that I recommend, and you are the perfect example of why I say:
First off, get an *actual* sound or sounding set. You’re way better off dropping $50 on proper sounds than finding thing around the house that might fit in your urethra. Seriously, I mean it.
at the beginning of this post.
That said, you’re probably fine. There are chemicals in the rubber of wire covers that keep them pliable which can be irritants, and getting hand santizer in your urinary tract is probably a real irritant too. Then theres the fact that wire is not going to slide down your urethra the way a rounded rod of metal or silicone will, and you’ve probably scrapped the crap out of your urethra (rounding out the tip doesn’t matter, the urethra is delicate).
If the burning, particularly on urination, sticks around for a few more days go see the doctor, you’ve won yourself a UTI. Beyond that, you’ll know for next time why I say it’s so important to do it right. And I promise, there will be a next time. Once you’re at the point of shoving random things in your pee-hole, you’ll be back.
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Don
FEBRUARY 7, 2013 AT 10:29 AM
you can go to walgreens cvs or other pharmacies and ask for azo urinary tract it will relieve the pain when you pee don’t worry about the color of your pee will be a bright orange will clear up in a about a day at most 2 days i use it my self. there is 2 kinds of azo one has prune or something to that affect the other is just for irritation or small pains
in a blue box small pill 2 in each pack i take 2 pills and that usually takes care of it.
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Pierced1
FEBRUARY 20, 2013 AT 8:06 AM
I received my Pratt set of urethal sounding instruments yesterday, and could’nt wait to experiment. I pretty closely followed your instructions above. Initially my penis was soft, but I became very erect pretty quickly. I was able to go to a fairly large size, and it seemed to go in far, leaving only about an inch outside of my penis.
So you think it was hitting my prostate? It seemed to. Sometimes I palpate my prostate in the shower, up my ass with a finger. This was a very similar sensation.
I had a huge orgasm without any cum comeing out of my penis. As I took out the sounding tool, there was some cum – but I guess most of it went into my bladder.
As you mentioned, for a first timer, there was a little blood, and slight burning sensation, but that was all seemingly minimal. This morning, my piss was also with a tingling sensation – which instantly gave me an erection.
Anyway, this was great fun. Thanks for all the tips
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bobbyd
FEBRUARY 22, 2013 AT 8:43 AM
I have just started using sounds and have taken your suggestions to heart. My God it feels so good. I have done this with my cock soft and hard. I love the feeling both ways and it gets me really excited. I just let the sound slide in as far as it would go by itself and left it there for quite a while. It aroused me so much I came while the sound was in. Damn I like this feeling.
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Amateur Sounder
FEBRUARY 26, 2013 AT 11:48 AM
Hi.
I tried sounding about a year back with the refill of a pen, and some other things too. Never went more than a couple inches though; my penis being about 6 inches. The first and second time it burned for a few days but then it was fine. I never did clean the things; just salivated them. I guess I was just lucky for not getting UTI.
Anyways after a long time, a few days back I tried it again this time with a very thin gold chain that went inside completely! Again, I only salivated it; no lube no sanitizer. Guess I’m crazy. Anyways, this time it didn’t hurt or burn afterwards AT ALL (okay maybe a little near the tip of the penis but that’s it).
No real worries here mate. Just wanted to share my experience :)
But do you think I should probably not continue with the gold chain? You think if not this time, then perhape next time things may get out of hand? I mean hell, God forbid a link might snap and it might stay there forever! The horror!
So I’m thinking the reason why it didn’t hurt at all this time is because a chain can twist inside the urethra and adjust unlike a solid metal bar. Maybe the urethral sounding ‘industry’ should try experimenting with chain sounds. Just sayin..
Peace.
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Troopter
FEBRUARY 27, 2013 AT 4:07 PM
Hi ,
I was wondering if you would be able to help me out …
I have been playing for some time now with my 6inch silicone sound, but its not long enuf to reach into my prostate. And thats where i want to be , i have been thinking of buyin a pratt set , wich has that curve , wich i think you need to reach the prostate or the bladder.
Now the thing is that i always get an erection during sounding , and i am worried that a straight sound is ging to damage something when i try to reach the prostate or the bladder.
I know that pratts are used to reach the prostate , but used on a flaccid penis.
So then again i am worried that the curve will damage something when i get an erection wich in my case is un-avoidable.
Please correct me if i am wrong on one or both of the above.
And what is the best sound for my purpose? ( reaching the prostate and or bladder)
Thank you for your time.
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Wintersong
FEBRUARY 28, 2013 AT 9:15 PM
A lot of has to do with the curvature of your erect penis.
Personally, I find that I can get *very* deep penetration with a straight sound depending on the angle of my penis to my body (look up username “poly_winter” on x-tube for an example), whereas I find the curvature of a hagar sound for instance to be really problematic.
I don’t happen to have much experience with Pratt sounds, but from talking to other people, it’s a real mixed bag. Some people like them, lots don’t (particularly for erect sounding).
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imchasinyou
DECEMBER 2, 2013 AT 8:04 PM
Reaching the prostate is done 2 ways. One via the urethra and the other is via the rectum. When going via the urethra, in my experience, you would want to use the straight style of sound, nothing small nor nothing too big that you have discomfort and CAREFULLY try different positions by raising and lowering your penis to allow further insertion. Remember the prostate lies right next to the bladder and completely surrounds the urethra. You will know when you hit the bladder as the muscle that allows you to retain urine will produce sharp pains when probed. Ive been on occasion to use a Foley Catheter to reach mine.
Exp: I sound regularly. I currently wear a 10 mm by 135 mm (25/64″ X 5 5/16″) dilator with 4 swells and a through hole for urination and have even came with it in. Similar to this http://penisplugsandmore.com/thruholeglansring_waves.htm
I might add, IF you are pierced, Prince Albert or what ever through the glans, its going to be very hard to stretch your urethra if this is what you are doing. The piercing itself causes scar tissue to form and it becomes almost like a very hard “tube” through the piercing. I am pierced and can wear a straight shaft or a captive ring in size 12.
These are my experiences and my personal opinion and should NEVER be taken as advise or a directive o your personal situation.
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Jagtstein
MARCH 16, 2013 AT 6:15 PM
Meanwhile, I get a 13-mm Hegar dilator in my urethral orifice into externus. And a 11-mm sound I get past my prostate. The increase of 0.5 mm has been shown to be effective.
I just pushed a 11-mm Hegar dilator of my prostate to stretch over. Very pleasant. One can also stimulate the prostate.
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wantitbad
APRIL 16, 2013 AT 1:52 PM
I use a 41 Fr sound (just slightly bigger than 1/2″)
Asolutely some of the best play around. Often have no requirement for ejaculation. Very satified & fatigued after an hour or two of play. Highly recommended!!
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wantitbad
APRIL 16, 2013 AT 1:55 PM
Sorry I also should have said i use Rosebuds & Pratts for 2 totally different experiences.
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robert
MAY 10, 2013 AT 6:13 PM
Hi, I just received my sounding rods. I used one before reading your suggestion. There was a little blood, but today I use the size you suggested and there was a little more blood. I didn’t force it in, just let it slide down per your suggestion. I actually never did anything with It and just let it rest in my penis. How long should that keep happening? I know you said it as normal, but I don’t want to cause a problem. Also, I didn’t get hard while stroking myself and never came. Was it the stroking that caused a problem?
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Wintersong
MAY 17, 2013 AT 12:38 AM
It’s possible that the rods, the lube, or residual of what you used to clean them, is something that you’re sensitive to and it’s causing problems for your urethral tissue, which is *very* delicate.
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russ dawg
MAY 24, 2013 AT 2:44 PM
is it possible to have sex with a penis plug or a short sound in?
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Wintersong
MAY 25, 2013 AT 1:05 AM
Personally I think the risk of puncturing the urethral wall is too high with a rigid metal plug, but I’ve had sex with a silicone sound/plug that stayed in place well (you could also use a condom to help keep it in place).
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Pierced1
MAY 28, 2013 AT 9:27 PM
I’ve been enjoying my pratt sounds as I posted in February, but today I was diagnosed with Pancratitus, which is very painful and has with it fever with intense chills. Then it cased me to have to miss work. I’m not thinking this is a safe procedure or way to masterbate. Then I’ve read how prostatitis leads to prostate cancer, so I’m really freaked about this think. I just caution everyone on this issue.
Pierced1
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Pierced1
MAY 29, 2013 AT 9:15 PM
I apologize for the above posting. Last night I was running a fever and was getting mixed up on a few things. Today, with treatment, things are much better. I was diagnosed with Prostatitis, which I came to understand is sometimes caused by inserting catheter type materials into the penis. It is very painful, and will likely re-occur if I do the sounding again. I had to go into urgent care and am now on a two week regimen of antibiotic. Yes, I have been missing work, and the fever and pain does make you get confused on details. Again, my apologies for the inaccurate information in the posting from May 28, but for all of those reading this blog, I felt it important to share my experiences.
pierced1
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Wintersong
JUNE 9, 2013 AT 11:10 AM
Prostatitis can be caused by any number of things, although yes, inserting something into the urethra can greatly increase your risk.
That’s why I emphasis the importance of keeping sounds *very* clean, using sterile lubricant, etc.
Alex
JULY 12, 2013 AT 5:36 AM
What type of sounds do you recommend for a beginner? Hegar, Pratt, rosebud, van buren.
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Wintersong
JULY 17, 2013 AT 3:21 AM
Personally, I like straight sounds. But Hagar’s or Rosebuds would work well too.
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Ed
JULY 13, 2013 AT 3:53 PM
I’ve used metal sounds a few times (alone). I’m paranoid about possible infection and the trouble it takes to clean them, otherwise I’d use them more often. Each time I have experienced some pain with pissing afterwards for a few hours. Is this from the sound? is it from the lube? Would silicone sounds be any less painful after? If only I am using silicone sounds, is it enough to clean them with soap and water? Thanks.
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Wintersong
JULY 17, 2013 AT 3:23 AM
The discomfort you’re describing is quite common, especially when you’re new to sounding.
Urethral tissue is not exactly accustomed to friction or stimulation and it gets irritated. This can last up to a couple of days.
In my experience this is even MORE common with silicone, but I haven’t compared with many other people or varieties of silicone sounds.
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luv2sound
JULY 17, 2013 AT 9:33 PM
I have tried sounding and I’m hooked. I bought a set of Pratts on Amazon for under $25 and also purchased some surgical gel. The smallest is 12 on one end and 15 on the other. The size I’m using now is 21 and 23. I clean it with an alcohol swab before and after use. U find that i can insert it the full 12″ into my urethra. The final three inches or so, I find I must totally relax before it will glide right in. I’m supposing it is through my prostate, because pressure before that time tells me I’m stimulating the prostate. Once it is inserted I find I can cum in about a minute. What a rush! I feel a slight burning afterward when I urinate, but that is just because my body is flushing out the urethra. After that, I have no other negative effects.
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Jagtstein
JULY 18, 2013 AT 4:17 PM
Meanwhile, I get a 13-mm Hegar dilator in my external urethral orifice into it. And a Hegar dilator with 11-mm diameter and a length of 20 cm I get past my prostate. The increase of 0.5 mm has proved to be effective.
I just pushed a 11-mm Hegar dilator in my prostate to stretch over. Very pleasant. So you can also stimulate the prostate.
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Jeffrey
AUGUST 6, 2013 AT 8:40 PM
Today I did urethral sounding for the first time, I bought. Rosebuds 6mm. I washed my penis twice with antibacterial soap, then wiped the sound and head of my penis with alcohol wipe, I used doctors gloves and surgilube. Found the experience to be very pleasurable. Was able to insert the full 11 inchs, the last couple was the most pleasurable. When the whole 11 inchs was inside me I could feel some pressure and resistance so I assume I was at the prostate. I want more intense pleasure, where should I go from here that is safe?
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Wintersong
AUGUST 6, 2013 AT 11:06 PM
At 11″ inside of your body, unless you have a VERY long penis, it’s likely that you were at the entrance to your bladder, and you *don’t* want to push any further.
If you do want to explore those particular sensations, you could explore catheter play.
To get more intense sensations out of your sounding experience, you can use a larger sound and you can stop with the “bud” of the rosebud around your prostate. Next time you’re erect, press firmly around your perineum (taint) below your scrotum and along your urethra until you feel some significant sensation. Then, next time you’re sounding, feel for when the bud gets to right around there and then experiment with moving it up and down, tipping it back and forth to press on the prostate, and massaging with your hand over and around the end of the sound.
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soundsgood
AUGUST 16, 2013 AT 8:42 AM
I recently purchased a set of rosebuds and am extremely happy with them. They are easy to use and very pleasurable. I am curious as to how far I can insert them. I’m using a 4mm and a 6mm. They go in about 8 or 9 inches without any problem but then there is resistance. I know that its quite easy to do damage so I’m reluctant to use any more than slight pressure. I’ve tried adjusting the angle but the resistance is still there. How much pressure is considered safe? How do I know if it’s safe to go in deeper? Any advice or information would be greatly appreciated. By the way, thanks for creating this thread. It’s quite informative and really good to learn about peoples experiences.
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Wintersong
APRIL 15, 2014 AT 12:19 PM
If you’re hitting resistant at 8 or 9 inches, that’s probably a good place to be stopping. You DON’T want to be penetrating your bladder. If that’s play that interests you, go the catheter route.
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Jean pierre lafontaine
APRIL 21, 2014 AT 4:36 PM
hello… i’m new to urethral sound..it’s my first time…last week.i began with a 4.5 mn et after three days i’m at 6.5 a little pain when a pee a little bood,,,,but only for one day .will the pain disappeared with time…will it be like the anal plug when i first used a buttplug it was about 1/2 inch and now i take 2 inches 1/2 ..No plain only pleasure..
thank you
Regards
Jean Pierre
Wintersong
APRIL 23, 2014 AT 5:13 PM
I’m a big fan of taking things slowly. If you’re having pain or blood, give yourself time some time off and be gentler when you resume.
explorer
APRIL 24, 2014 AT 6:52 PM
thank you for your advice,,
James
AUGUST 17, 2013 AT 12:49 PM
I have been experimenting with a tens unit, and French catheters since the early nineties , and practicing sterile techniques to avoid urethral tears, infections, and the like. Being in the medical profession, I have been able to procure such instruments, and all the posts regarding ‘pre and post usage of sounds, peeing, mild blood, etc’ hits the mark! Like the very first time I masterbated, and came when I was 15 years old, I will never forget THOSE erotic sensations! Additionally, when I first ‘catherized’ myself with a French catheter, I was able to advance the cath well past the 10+ inches, and pass the spincther by the prostate, and into my bladder. My God, those sensations were out of this world~The erotic stirrings, and pleasureable contractions made me feel like the first time I masterbated to climax, but I withheld cumming as I slowly pulled the catheter out of my erect cock- copious precum oozed out, which excited me further, and when I decided to cum, I shot a load like never before! Even at age 63, I still use sounds, the tens unit, and cock rings to self pleasure myself! Be safe, and have fun out there!
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WhatDoesItSoundLike
AUGUST 19, 2013 AT 1:31 PM
I’ve been wondering for a while, is it safe to use a sound while actually penetrating someone? I’ve noticed that some sounds are vibrating, which I think would be incredibly fun and make sex all the more enjoyable, be it vaginal or anal. Do you know if this is a viable new addition to sex?
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Wintersong
APRIL 15, 2014 AT 12:18 PM
I know people who’ve used the soft silicone sounds during penetration play but I’d STRONGLY advise against anything else. Sex is not the most controlled environment in history, and I’d be very loath to introduce something quite literally inflexible into the mix.
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Trooper
AUGUST 22, 2013 AT 2:34 PM
Hi ive been sounding for almost a year now and the fact is i never had any problems inserting sounds from 1mm to 9mm since then ive been trying to insert 10mm and from the moment it reaches the point where my sound goes from 9 mm to 10 it hurts a bit , then as i progress slowly it starts burning then the sound pops a bit inward.
I cannot do anything to stop it from doing that, and this is the point where its realy hurting.
But , fortunate i have a high pain threshold and i can keep it there for a while.
Then when im a bit acostumed to the pain i try pushing it a little deeper.
And here is where the question comes in :
I cant realy say if it is the opening of the urethera thats still burning from the stretching or the urethera itself that hurts from stretching.
I have never bleeded from this , that is why i still try. (BTW: i use a lot of sterile lube)
Is this normal? If yes, how long wil this “upgrade” take? aproximatly?
( not everyone is the same, i know)
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simon brown
SEPTEMBER 4, 2013 AT 2:17 PM
whats the best angle to have your penis when sounding
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Wintersong
APRIL 15, 2014 AT 12:16 PM
There’s no one right answer to that question, it’s going to vary from person to person and situation to situation.
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castoutangel
SEPTEMBER 6, 2013 AT 3:43 AM
Just did my first sounding session. It was pretty amazing, and I am definitely going to continue. I did have one question. I was going deep, rather than big, and I thought I had hit my prostrate, because I could feel the end of the sound leave my penis but it wasn’t going a whole lot farther. I couldn’t get it past, and I didn’t want to force it, but it felt good to kind of “fuck” into it. Then when I pulled out I started peeing. I didn’t even know it was coming. I didn’t have a problem cutting it off, but it made me wonder if I was at my bladder rather than my prostrate. I was probably around eight inches in. My penis is a around six and a half inches when fully hard, and I wasn’t fully hard, but I wasn’t soft either.
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luv2sound
OCTOBER 6, 2013 AT 12:52 AM
Could you tell me what the numbers mean on my set of Pratt’s. I feel very comfortable with the #27 all the way in (the 25 is on the other end). With some warm up, I can maneuver the 29 in, but the 31 is too tight and even with trying to stretch the hole, it still won’t go in yet. I’m practicing patience. My set goes all the way to a 43> What do the numbers mean?
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Wintersong
MARCH 6, 2014 AT 2:15 AM
I’m not sure. They could be French catheter numbers, or they could be milimeters
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BC
OCTOBER 18, 2013 AT 3:56 PM
I tried sounding for the first time, it wasvery pleasurable
I was laying down on my back and gravity just took over and they slipped in
I have a hagar set. When I got to the 9 and 10 mm I lubed too much of the sound and it slipped through my fingers and went entirely inside me I freaked grabbed for it and pushed it too deep. Had intense pain and(after I found I could push it out without a problem) I had blood. Now it burns real bad when I pee, and burns for about 5 minutes after.
Did I puncture myself or do you think its just bad irritation. I want to do it again but I’m a little scared of what happened
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Joe
OCTOBER 24, 2013 AT 6:17 PM
I recommend using a thermometer. I never had any pain or discomfort with it, and it can go in a long way without any discomfort, period. I mean, think about it. The thermometer is made to go smoothly and safely into the body. The metal tip is completely safe, and easily goes in with a lot of lube. I especially like it when it finally stimulates my ejaculation reflex, god that’s a good feeling when I come.
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Wintersong
MARCH 6, 2014 AT 2:13 AM
Please folks, let’s try to stick to things that don’t have quite this level of direness in the event of a materials failure.
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Zigfried
NOVEMBER 14, 2013 AT 6:29 PM
Have you tried sounding with a butt plug or aneros prostate stimulating device inserted at the same time. Any comments would be appreciated thank you
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Johnny Insa
NOVEMBER 15, 2013 AT 7:56 AM
I just bought a set of Haggar Sounds 8 count . The smallest is 3-4 mm up to largest being around 3/4 inch thick . I have been able to use easily the first 3 largest being 8mm thick.
All the sounds are 8 inches long and one in is larger than the other. My question is how to I get to a larger size 10 mm and more. 8 mm went in fine but 10 mm barely goes in and I tried for a while with a lot of silicone lube and it barely entered my uretha before burning pain started. I have no idea how the really big sounds in this set could ever work.
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Wintersong
MARCH 6, 2014 AT 2:12 AM
That’s because Hagar sounds aren’t actually designed for urethral use (which I’ll be addressing soon in my revised version of this post), but rather for cervical dilation. Most people will never get to the huge ones as far as urethral insertion, although there are those gifted individuals out there who manage.
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Farmer12027
DECEMBER 1, 2013 AT 10:06 AM
I find 2 uses for sounding. One is masturbating, as a way to provide extra stimulation. The other is when my wife is providing CBT. She has found ways to use the sounds to add considerable “pleasure”. One is, put the sounds (stainless) in the fridge first. The coldness is awesome to feel. The other is to dip the sound in something like lemon juice or Scope (or the exotic ginger root) before insertion. The modest pain is very good, and no long lasting problems result.
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Daniel
DECEMBER 2, 2013 AT 10:32 PM
Is it supposed to hurt when you sound your penis for the first time
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Wintersong
MARCH 6, 2014 AT 2:11 AM
Some people find that it does, but I’d encourage you to try to mitigate it as much as possible until you have more experience. Use small sounds and plenty of lube. You also may simply find that sounding doesn’t produce sensations that work for you.
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Ec Non
DECEMBER 22, 2013 AT 1:58 AM
would anyone recommend Vaseline? would that burn more than other lubes?
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Marie Rowan
JANUARY 8, 2014 AT 7:08 PM
Hello, so nice to find you. My friend and I both Submissives have been experimenting with sounding. We just bought a sounding kit which came with no instructions. So that is how I’ve come to find you. In our sounding kit there is one with a ring attached at the top. We are curious to know what that specific purpose is for?
Hoping to hear from you…
also every year we have a northern exposure experience 3 Day weekend of Education for all BDSM and this year will be no other exposures 4th year I believe or 5th I can’t remember. Anyhow “Northern Exposure” is located in Alaska. Have you ever been here? I’m going to suggest to the Foxden who are the ones who bring up all the presenters and suggest that they snatch you up so to speak lol.
I’m going to email your page to them…well hopefully you’ll be hearing from them.
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Wintersong
MARCH 6, 2014 AT 2:06 AM
I’m certainly familiar with Northern Exposure, Lee Harrington, a friend of mine has done it, even before he moved up that way.
The only sounds with rings on top that I’ve personally seen were ones that could vibrate, usually taking a AAA battery
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Rod
JANUARY 11, 2014 AT 2:10 PM
I use a push from a gasoline motor to shove up my penis, it’s about 10 inches long and 1/4inch in diameter ,it is very smooth , is that ok to use ?
I have had very strong climaxes with it. It goes in when I’m soft but ends up hard. I’m not that big about 4.5 inches when hard.
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Wintersong
MARCH 6, 2014 AT 2:05 AM
I’m a big fan of keeping to medical-grade objects (316LVM steel, titanium, and high-grade silicone) when it comes to sticking things in my body personally.
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Stanley Reed
FEBRUARY 17, 2014 AT 11:21 AM
I just started sounding using a Heager 6mm. I find it very enjoyable. My problem is I have a burning at the meatus. It makes insurtion a problem. I would like to go to a 7mm , but i am not sure how to make this step. I am doing it with a soft penis. If i use a smaller sound first this makes insurtion of the 7mm better. It also takes a lot of pressure to insert. Please help me, because i want to increase in size with out the burning. I enjoy sounding and do not want to stop. Thank you for any help you can give me.
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Wintersong
MARCH 6, 2014 AT 2:04 AM
MILD burning sensations are not unheard of. I’d say that you may be a bit sensitive to either the lube or sound you’re using, which combined with the increased sensation from the larger sound is contributing to the issue. Also, Heagar sounds are rather blunt (being cervical dilators) and you may benefit from trying a more tapered sound like a Dittel (straight) set.
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cledro
FEBRUARY 24, 2014 AT 1:52 PM
Hi. I am used to sound with soft or hard sounds. I wanted to try the rosebud sounds but in the sex shop I was told that they refuse to sell them because it happened some time that they break inside the urethra ! It makes me fear but I wtill want to try a rosebud urethral sound. What is your opinion ?
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Wintersong
MARCH 6, 2014 AT 2:01 AM
Many of the rosebuds sounds I see are *very* low quality, and breakage is an unlikely, but hardly impossible risk. If you’re worried about it, get high quality versions by specifically searching for German-made bile duct dialators (which is what “rosebud sounds” are).
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Tyler
FEBRUARY 26, 2014 AT 3:17 PM
Hi there. I love your blog on sounding. My wife and I have been doing this for a few weeks now and we have been doing great but I am at a point now where I can not get a bigger sound to go in without pain. Before we just lubed it up well and stuck it in tge tip and let the weight of the sound do the work and it would slowly slide into my urethra. This is no longer working with a bigger size and if I put any pressure on the sound I feel pain. What do I do?
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Wintersong
MARCH 6, 2014 AT 2:00 AM
If you keep increasing in size you do eventually hit a point where the weight of the sound isn’t adequate to carry it into the urethra. At the same time, the pain is concerning. One thing is to add additional lube, as the lube could be getting squeegeed off by your meatus on the way in. Other than that, you might try a different kind of sound, perhaps one covering an intermediate size.
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Tim W Edwards
MARCH 3, 2014 AT 1:42 PM
what about just cover a suitable smooth object with a condomn? is condomn safe?
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Wintersong
MARCH 6, 2014 AT 1:58 AM
I’d recommend against it, mostly from a comfort perspective. Condoms are big, and will end up getting wrinkles, which will not be comfortable.
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Jake
MARCH 5, 2014 AT 12:09 AM
Awhile this is a two year old blog post, I have a question to ask on the topic. I’ve recently gone into using Hegar sounds and they have been great and fun. But something worries me and also surprises me. Before using Hegar sounds (being my first sounds and current ones of use) my penis head grew more pronounced than prior to using sounds. Prior to using sounds, the head of my penis was rather narrow and lacked shape. However after using the sounds, my penis head grew more rounded like a helmet head.There is no feeling of swelling or any stinging whatsoever. So my question is, is it normal for the head/helmet of the penis to change after the use of sounds?
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Wintersong
MARCH 6, 2014 AT 1:57 AM
I’ll admit, this is a new one to me. I wish I had a useful answer for you.
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boynxdor
MARCH 22, 2014 AT 3:18 AM
Guys, guys, guys! This is your cock we are talking about here, he’s your best friend in the whole wide world, why would you even think of shoving something not specially designed into him. It’s not as though they are that expensive.
I happened on this site and got curious so I headed off to the sex shop today and purchased a couple of beginners sounds. One was a 1 & 2mm and the other a 3 & 4 mm. I reckon I have a small urethra so I started off with the 2 and was surprised how easily it went in so I tried the 3 and got that just about all the way in. I had a good play jerking off with it in. I’m a bit averse to pain so I didn’t cum with it in but had fun anyway (that’s for next time). Glad to have no blood or pain afterwards and was defiantly worth a try. I’m not sure if I’m a convert yet but will certainly give it another go.
Thanks Wintersong for a great starting point for a complete novice :-)
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Clunk
APRIL 19, 2014 AT 6:42 PM
I bought a rosebud sounding rod, and it actually comes to a sharp point at the end. I find this very confusing, and I’m not sure it’s supposed to be that way. At least, when I bought it, I didn’t expect it to come to a point. Is that normal/safe? If I poke myself with it, it’s not enough to draw blood, but it’s enough for my body to say, “Yeah, that’s a sharp object.”
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Wintersong
APRIL 19, 2014 AT 6:45 PM
That sounds (no pun intended) like a rosebud sound that has had the “bud” come off. Is it just a straight rod with a slight point on the end, or does it bulb out noticeably?
“Rosebud sounds” are actually bile duct dilators, and many of the ones readily and cheaply available are of low quality manufacture. Coming apart at the seams where the handle or the bud are brazed to the rod itself is unfortunately not uncommon.
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Clunk
JUNE 9, 2014 AT 3:10 AM
oh, yay! it never showed me that you’d commented back. I was beginning to think I’d asked a stupid question x3
it bulbs out noticeably, then it almost comes to a round end but instead comes to a distinct point. I tried to take a picture, but with my low-quality webcam, it still looks like it’s a rounded bulb. You almost wouldn’t be able to tell it had a point until you touched the end and it bit you.
Where would you suggest getting one that’s NOT sharp on the end? :3
Nipplman
APRIL 24, 2014 AT 1:16 PM
Great discussion. Love sounding my cock. Would love to connect for mutual c2c cam play. Is there a directory of social web sites for sounders?
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Wintersong
APRIL 25, 2014 AT 2:50 AM
None that I know of, but you could try Fetlife.com or reddit.com/r/peehole
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new sounder
MAY 2, 2014 AT 8:59 AM
wow this blogging about sounding is awesome..i actually never knew this was practiced..ill tell you just the other day i was using a meat thermometer it was im guessing about 6in kind of a small one the reading head was about an inch and half in diameter of course the other end was pointed..i did it once before with regular oral thermometer..it was pleasurable..anyway the weight at the top of meat thermometer it would just slide all the way down to my meatus..i was pulling out letting it fall back down. It was nice but i wanted something more. Well guess what i used and never thought it would actually fit i used one of those round bic pens it was awesome..i took it all in (i was standing).i never heard of using lubes..it would come out slow and ide push it back up. so pleasurable..I was so horny you might say,..didnt think of the bacteria issue..i was lucky..before I started playing i ordered the eight rose buds.. anyway after i was through. i had to pee maybe half hour later and man did it burn i thought i had UTI. but it subsided so glad to hear it was normal reaction especially with no lube..burning at tip went away in 2 days so thank ill be more careful from now on..my rosebuds be here in a day of so I cant wait..thank you so much for sharing..Ive never used a lube..or thought about it…so can I use KY jelly or is there something I can buy at walmart?..I probe my rectum to message my prostate its pleasurable so Now I want to see if i can touch i with rose bud..thank you again so much..I keep you posted on my journey…Wayne..
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Wintersong
MAY 2, 2014 AT 8:49 PM
For lube, I really can’t recommend getting sterile lube highly enough! Fortunately, just about every pharmacy has it or can order it, and it isn’t very expensive. In the US the most common brand name is going to be “SurgiLube” and I’d ask for that by name at the pharmacy.
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Wireless
JUNE 7, 2014 AT 3:29 PM
I just had the best rush ever. I tried sounding at the same time I was giving myself an enema. I stroked my urethra with a str8 rod – while the warm water was flowing into me. Ejaculation was phenomena! Thanks for your blog
Tyler
JUNE 17, 2014 AT 4:42 PM
I am having a problem going bigger on my sounds. I can not get a bigger sound through the meatus of my cock, it hurts too bad when trying to insert it in. Is there anything I can do to get this next size sound in?
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Jagtstein
JUNE 17, 2014 AT 4:54 PM
Urethra input (external urethral orifice) stretch.
I always Increase in steps of 0.5 mm with Hegar Dillatoren. If you increase too fast there is a risk the cracks. Scar tissue that emerges can be stretched badly. Until now I have reached 13.5 mm begun I have with 6mm diameter.
Of course I also have a constriction at the external urethral orifice, the stretching you have to laboriously. Since a meatotomy does not help.
Of course, a Pain Relief is useful in a diameter increase. I use Xylocaine gel 2%. Since you have to be careful of course that you rangeht not be too hard because you can, otherwise injuries because you feel less pain. So just slowly increase the diameter.
For a 0.5 mm step I need about 2 to 3 months.
With a 11 mm Hegar Dillator I get past the constriction of the prostate. To stretch the prostate bottleneck I find quite enjoyable.
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